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a new religion?
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why don't gays start their own religion when they are obviously not welcome in the church of england or the popes lot?
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Because most gays are sensible enough to know religions a load of bollocks anyway? Doesn't matter anyway, I reckon they'll be in the Church of England in the next 10 years despite the recent furore as America's just done it and if they with their more anti-gay attitude can do, we can. I reckon a new Pope or two down the line should drag the Catholics into the 21st century - most Catholics I know ignore the bits of the religion they don't like anyway.
They say homosexuality is 'wrong' because the Bible says so. But they still eat shellfish even though 'the Bible' states in wrong to do so.
Jesus himself stated that Christians shouldn't own property. But there is probably NO Christian who does not own anything!!
Oh yes, and the Bible condones slavery. So can I have the 'right' to own people since the 'Bible' says I can?
Jesus never stated he was the 'Son of God' anyhow. He was probably just a man.
As for people picking and choosing from the Bible, well technically ALL Christians do that, as I have stated above. I must admit Liberal Christianity has more of an appeal than 'conservative' Christianity.
and mono ...i actualy agree with you for once!
Pretty poor form by God, didn't he think that when he created man that future a Adam might like Steve rather than Eve!
There is no God.
The Bible is self-contradictory. Why would Jesus say that owning property is wrong when details about owning property are given in the Old Testament?
There is more to life than 'rights', individual freedoms, property and so on. Should we talk about sex or football for a change?
I'll be your religion, a fallen star that you cannot live without.
I'll feed your obsession.
This thing you'll never doubt.
Bow down to me. Bow down to me.
Support this with evidence please.
support this with evidence please.
support this with evidence please.
I'm sure they'd say the same about you mono
In the Old Testement it says what it does about shellfish and it's really hebrews who live by that book, hence they also aren't supposed to eat pork because pigs are scavangers. Some meats are simply seen as unclean.
As for homosexuality, again it says so in the Old Testement that sodomisers go to hell, man shall not lie next to man ect. which I think is mentioned in Revelations too... but Christians should follow the life of Christ and use his teachings, not God's. I mean Mary magdeline was a prostitute :yes:
Where the fuck did the Bible say that? Some backup maybe? Or a reference.
Again, where does it say that? yes, there are slaves in the Bible, mentioned in Exodus where Moses sends plagues to the Pharo until he lets the slaves go. Um... where are you getting your sources from kid?
Wait... he did know he was the son of God! When he was on the cross he asked "father, why have you forsaken me?" He wouldn't have asked that otherwise.
What the flying fork is 'Liberal Christianity'? or are you talking about less fundamental churches such as the Quakers?
And you know this because?
Like Hobbs said, back things up before you make a statement. I can't see much accuracy in those claims, no offense. And I'm from a Christian background, so I know a bit about it.
Some denominations do accept gay people... or try to, although they don't tend to be as powerful as the big ass churches like the Roman catholic or Protestant church. The Quakers for example don't even sing hymns, they're apparently very down to earth. And I once met a very friendly Spiritualist gay Christian too.
I actually think it's disgusting that a religion that is supposed to be about love... goes out of its way to discriminate. Why can't everybody get along?
And how come you say you're a Christian yet have never heard of Liberal Christianity?
And what church is that? the liberal church or a specific denomination?
I didn't say God did exist, but I asked you to back up why he doesn't exist. I mean if you're going to criticise a religion then at least back up what you say and know exactly what you're on about. :rolleyes:
I admit, never looked in to Liberal Christianity. Got a link on it?
The God...Jesus' Father...I am a catholic, i know people who pray to saints for guidance and support and whatnot.
monocrat; there is no god you say, how do you know? did you die and then come back? no you didn't so instead of saying there is no god with no evidence to back it up why don't you just keep your view to yourself or say that you don't believe in God.
OK I should have said I don't believe in God. :rolleyes:
Aye. I reckon it's like... I dunno, every religion or set of beliefs has something to offer, be it Christianity, Islam, Budhism or the Godess religion. I mean like certain teachings that could inspire or help somebody.
that you must worship god ...not him not angels. over and over he states this as his case ...all glory etc etc belongs to god and god alone.
how all these christian religions get away with all this nonsense is beyond me. i'm a stoner ...and ex junkie and friggin outlaw and i know more about your jesus than most of you followers!
you look but you don't see ....hey is that in the bible or did i just have a revelation!
But according to Christian belief, Jesus IS PART of God!!
One thing that gets me is "thou shalt not judge"
Is homophobia not judging?
na not really
I thought debate was about presenting your argument backed up by evidence. you just spouted mis-information and rubbish based on a mis-understanding and I really couldn't be bothered to go through your post.
You expect Monocrat to back up what he says? Yeah, while you're at it maybe we can all hope for a post with more than ten words in it.
:rolleyes:
most religous christians believe the bible to be the word of god.
the bible clearly states that man on man is bad. so why do gays want to join? it can't be because they believe the bible to be a book of truth ...if it's true then you can't change it. what about all the other christians who want to stick closely to scripture and say that their god has clearly stated that homo is wrongo? why go stealing their religion off them?
why ...don't all you gay people simply get your own book of truth and start afresh?