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The other side of the immigration debate
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/from_our_own_correspondent/3117379.stm
Another story last year showed how one Italian village were actively calling for immigrants to move in. They realised that young immigrant families which tended to be larger than Western European standards could provide the lifeblood and future tax revenues to help sustain their region in the future.
Interesting to see that despite all the right-wing scare tactics about migration into this country, our economy continues to have one of the best performances in Western Europe.
Also worth thinking about is the differences in the regional economies of regions/cities like the South-East, West Midlands, Cardiff, Bristol compared to the North East, Scotland, Cornwall and Devon. The first group have had continued migration for years and are thriving and growing in comparison to the static and often depressed economies of the second.
Does make one wonder about the real reasons for the dispersal programme for asylum seekers.
Another story last year showed how one Italian village were actively calling for immigrants to move in. They realised that young immigrant families which tended to be larger than Western European standards could provide the lifeblood and future tax revenues to help sustain their region in the future.
Interesting to see that despite all the right-wing scare tactics about migration into this country, our economy continues to have one of the best performances in Western Europe.
Also worth thinking about is the differences in the regional economies of regions/cities like the South-East, West Midlands, Cardiff, Bristol compared to the North East, Scotland, Cornwall and Devon. The first group have had continued migration for years and are thriving and growing in comparison to the static and often depressed economies of the second.
Does make one wonder about the real reasons for the dispersal programme for asylum seekers.
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Some have criticised past governments for over emphasing on the South East.
If the public services are going backwards its the fault of politicians alone, they can be improved. Immigration is just used as a smokescreen for political ineptitude.
As it was proven first with the African/Caribbean community and then with the Asian community, immigrants make a good contribution to this country and are often prepared to work harder than the native population.
The same old tired arguments about Britain being flooded with immigrants and the country collapsing or losing its identity were being voiced when the African/Caribbean and Asian immigrants arrived during the 1950s & 1960s. It proved to be a load of bollocks then, and it will prove to be a load of bollocks now.
Putting extra strain on it is hardly going to improve it any time soon.
I agree with you there. *cough*Enoch Powell! *cough*
Fair comment but its also been pointed out that migrants are underpinning the economy of the South East. Also newcomers will always stimulate a need for more goods and services.
What extra strain? Our health and education services are desperately trying to recruit abroad to improve things. Also you have to remember the amount of people emigrating from this country balances out things.
not true, net inflow for 2001 was 172k
If i were an italian village, i'd be a bit fussy who i encouraged ithere, its quintessential charm might just disappear
Some immigrants do, some don't and are a relative burden on the UK
Regarding the italian villagers I think there more concerned with the tax revenues and the villages dissappearing without being overly fussy. The reality is being indigenous doesn't make one automatically good or productive anymore than being a migrant makes one the opposite.
Maybe Italins should close non-viable villages and concentrate their resourced in towns/cities
italy + Spain have puzzlyingly low birth-rates given their supposed love of children
The 1 million figure was established from the official census. I agree there are unrecorded illegal immigrants but due to them not being recorded or ineffective immigration controls its a guess to how many.
Can you imagine telling any villagers to move out to the cities because they are non-viable in this country, the politician that attempted that one would be lynched. It's not going to happen and shouldn't have to.
Low birth rates are the products of a modern western society, people want more disposable income, consumer goods etc Women are more equal these days and don't necessarily wish to be baby machines without having the choice of a career.
And nobody wants to pick the cabbages, sweep the floors, flip the burgers or nurse the old people so who's gonna do it?
The situation hasn't arisen AFAIK but old people get lilttle real choice in their circumstances in UK. iff hteres no valid infra-structure due to de-population, should Govt provide it?
Governments all over the world see the value of attracting migrants where necessary, there is an article in my local paper, where an agency has won a contract to recruit British nurses to go to Austrailia, meanwhile our hospitals are once again targetting other countries nurses to fill vacancies.
If it means the country benefits, migration is a good thing surely.
http://www.epost.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=86423&command=displayContent&sourceNode=86420&contentPK=6603503
If you think thats crazy, a big reason the health service has financial problems is due to it having to hire its own staff from agencies at higher rates than its allowed to pay them.
The worlds gone mad I tell ya!