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We just went hot...and for all our bickering, you, the ol pirate kingdom, stood with US sholder to sholder...I am humbled.
Thank you...and be careful;
Watch out for that other shoe...it appears that ol salamibentlabia wants to be viewed as mohamud reincarnate...and his followers are all of islam...they will strike again, and again, and again! And their view is simple...if your are of islam...you must be with us or be destroyed with 'them' and the them is US!
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Thank you...and be careful;
Watch out for that other shoe...it appears that ol salamibentlabia wants to be viewed as mohamud reincarnate...and his followers are all of islam...they will strike again, and again, and again! And their view is simple...if your are of islam...you must be with us or be destroyed with 'them' and the them is US!
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There are now only two sides, those that help and those that don't. There is NO neutrality...
"Perhaps my best years are gone, but I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now." - Samuel Beckett
true, true. either you are against terrorism absolutely, or you are a terrorist. thats the way it always should have been.
also, i'm proud of britain for taking the role we have in this. we may just have made ourselves target #2, but i'd rather that than we stand idly by as this war is fought.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
God bless our armed forces and keep them safe.
"Let's roll......" Todd Beamer, American Hero
peacechild
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[This message has been edited by Dom Waghorn (edited 10-10-2001).]
If Bin Laden made it to the UK we would not, even with the evidence we have, be able to extradite him to the US. Does that mean we are a legitimate target for the Americans.
We need a European army.
I have no love for the Taleban, but the current action seems to be aimed at overthrowing them, rather than dealing with OBL.
I do agree with you here. It seems as though it would have gone much more smoothy had we shown evidence to the Taliban...Of course it probably would have meant the informants would have been tortured horribly and then killed.
Surely doing both is a good thing? Getting rid of the Taliban is the single most important thing we could do for the Afghan people. The taliban are hated by the people, they dont even have majority support from their own ethnic group..These people are animals, pure and simple.
Screw extraditing him..If he made it to this country he could claim asylum and live it up off our govt for the rest of his life.
Not sure I understand the Euro army point you tacked on the end there.
"Let's roll......" Todd Beamer, American Hero
Don't get me wrong; democracy, particularly representative democracy as used to be operated here, is the best system that I know of. Given a choice of living in a muslim state and America, I'd have no hesitation in choosing the "Land of the Free" I am increasingly alarmed by american (for want of a better word) imperialism. There is no-one able to stand up to them. I'd be much happier if there was a force that, amongst other things, was capable of presenting a realistic opposition to America
With tha Afganistan solution we are droping bombs and beans...literally...and when the mess is settled and we bring home ol salamibentlabbia's head preserved in mule urin and virgin pee there will be left the largest 'welfare' project in history...preserving the very existence of the people...baring other events we surely will...!
Afganistan is about the same size as our state of Texas...and just about as sorry a place to live (for the most part)...but maybe, just maybe...we can get the mines cleared and put in some world class ski resorts.
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I suspect it has more to do with preserving the position of their informant/s for future use rather than just pulling them out to safety. I think weve seen that the west has appauling intelligence in the region and I reckon any 'insiders' they might have would be very valuable just where they are.
While its not being espoused by our leaders I think the justification for doing it is the freedom of the Afghan people from tyranny and famine. Of course thats not the reason our govt is doing it for but it will achieve this goal.
Thats where the problem lies. They are using an extreme form of Islam to rule the country. The people of that country dont want to live by the intepretation of Islamic law used by the Taleban. Even most other Muslim nations cant abide the Taleban and their awful practices. I stick by my statement, they are animals...even by the standards of other Islamic countries.
Why? Maybe its just me and I understand that its not possible but I would like to see the entire world working as a free democratic place. I would love to see the end of dictators, tyrannical rulers, harsh theocracies, communist states etc..I happen to think that all people should have the basic rights to freedom. Say what you will about America but they do cherish freedom and liberty above all.
The rest of the world dont need an army to keep the American govt in check...Thats the job of the American people and they will do it if America starts to turn into what they hate the most, a tyrant.
"Let's roll......" Todd Beamer, American Hero
and they start to really believe it!
Good point..None of us are really free. I should have said relatively free <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif">
"Let's roll......" Todd Beamer, American Hero
All those brave people who died in the last world war would turn in their grave to hear you slagging off our freedom that they fought for so bravely.
They may have fought for in the wars but its been massively degraded since then.
I dont see anyone slagging off our freedoms here. We are 'relatively' free compared to the Afghans but we certainly arent totally free..Its impossible while we have laws and government.
"Let's roll......" Todd Beamer, American Hero
They had to fight for their own perhaps?
If youre a British citizen then they most certainly did fight for your freedom. They fought for their freedom and freedom for their children...that means you.
"Let's roll......" Todd Beamer, American Hero
Indeed - some evidence was outlined that was very persuasive. Until you thought about it. What remained was around evens to warrant extradition, between neutral countries.
I remind you that we could not extradite anyone to america to face murder charges. As there is unlikely to be anywhere we could deport them to that would be safe for them we would be probably be obliged to grant them assylum. (We would probably look the other way when MIBs arrived and "helped" suspects onto flights to America)
If America and other terrorist nations hadn't spent so long blocking and weakening an international court there might have been one around now. Ah well, sow the winds, reap the whirlwind.