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I have proof that bin laden is a murderous, fanatical Bastard:
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His gang was trained and funded by the United States!
Mark Thomas in the New Statesman
"With his recent proclamations, Dubbya is following in a family tradition: Bush Sr declared war on drugs, Junior declares war on terrorism. Given Americas role in drug-running and terrorism, we can only assume that if any of Dubbya's offspring ever decide to go into politics, they will declare war on something else that America is heavily implicated in - Obesity, for example.
America's sponsorship of terrorism doesn't end at Nicaragua or the Middle East; it is not merely historic, it is current. It comes wrapped in the rhetoric of the war on drugs and, in one instance, it is called Plan Colombia. Like most recent action plans involving the US that have resulted in violence, it has an innocuous sounding name. (By the time this article appears, America's plan to bomb Afghanistan will probably have changes it's title to Operation Care-bears forever) .
According to the US authorities, Plan Colombia aims to eradicate cocaine production, to promote Human rights and to alleviate poverty. Honest. That is what they said. Promise, they really did. You can stop the hollow laughter now please. The US intends to improve human rights and living standards by supplying the Colombian government with the biggest military aid package in Latin America since the end of the cold war. Bolted on are a few "Social justice" and "Poverty reduction" programmes - though these are about as much use as a Blue Peter badge on a cluster bomb. Most of the prospective donor countries for theses programmes have been scared off the plan, alarmed by the scale of US military aid.
Originally, the Colombian government, under Andres Pastrana, asked that the plan comprise 55 percent military aid and 45 percent developmental aid. In a move that probably made the president of the National Rifle Association, Charlton Heston, glow with patriotic pride, America upped the gun quota for Colombia, providing it with $1.3bn military aid package, worth 80 percent of the deal.
Now some of you Christopher Hitchens-hating, liberal scum are no doubt wondering how that much weaponry (Including 30 Black hawk helicopters 33 UH-1N helicopters and an estimated 200-300 US military 'advisors') will help sponsor human rights. And I say that it is totally wrong to question US foreign policy at this time! You don't understand America's pain! You Stalinist, anti-American bastards! You are saying those people at the world Trade center deserved to die...Oops sorry, wrong column: I got confused and thought I was an overweight, supposedly left-wing Journalist.
The Colombian government has the worst Human rights record in the Western Hemisphere - which, considering the competition in the region, is a hard won title. There are well proven links between the Colombian army and the paramilitary 'death squads' originally set up by landowners in the 1960's. Human Rights Watch, writing to Madeline Albright, the then US secretary of state , emphasised the collusion between the army and the "death Squads". It said that it had observed that the Colombian military and paramilitary units shared intelligence, weapons, vehicles, and Medical aid. In one case, "Death squads" attacked a village supposedly sympathetic to "leftist rebels': the squads arrived in Colombian army vehicles, owned by the 24th brigade, and murdered approximately 150 civilians.
Almost 80 percent of human rights abuses in Colombia have been committed by the paramilitary "death Squads". They have attacked human rights monitors and observers. they have played a major role in assassinating trade unionists, which has resulted in the the murders of more than 1,336 union activists in the past decade - more than in the rest of Latin America combined. The human rights department of the Central Unitaria de Trabajadores, Colombia's largest trade union federation, has had 3,000 of it's members killed since it was founded in the mid 1980's. For some time now the union has been fighting a war against terrorism, much of it funded by America.
For decades we have been able to point to the most evil group of thugs in the world's playground and be almost certain that the US has aided them in order to further its geopolitical interests.
I don't know if Osama bin Laden is guilty of master-minding the attack on the World Trade Center. However, that he and other mujahedin were armed, trained and funded by the US is proof that he is a Murderous, fanatical bastard."
From The New Statesman 8th October 2001
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Mark Thomas in the New Statesman
"With his recent proclamations, Dubbya is following in a family tradition: Bush Sr declared war on drugs, Junior declares war on terrorism. Given Americas role in drug-running and terrorism, we can only assume that if any of Dubbya's offspring ever decide to go into politics, they will declare war on something else that America is heavily implicated in - Obesity, for example.
America's sponsorship of terrorism doesn't end at Nicaragua or the Middle East; it is not merely historic, it is current. It comes wrapped in the rhetoric of the war on drugs and, in one instance, it is called Plan Colombia. Like most recent action plans involving the US that have resulted in violence, it has an innocuous sounding name. (By the time this article appears, America's plan to bomb Afghanistan will probably have changes it's title to Operation Care-bears forever) .
According to the US authorities, Plan Colombia aims to eradicate cocaine production, to promote Human rights and to alleviate poverty. Honest. That is what they said. Promise, they really did. You can stop the hollow laughter now please. The US intends to improve human rights and living standards by supplying the Colombian government with the biggest military aid package in Latin America since the end of the cold war. Bolted on are a few "Social justice" and "Poverty reduction" programmes - though these are about as much use as a Blue Peter badge on a cluster bomb. Most of the prospective donor countries for theses programmes have been scared off the plan, alarmed by the scale of US military aid.
Originally, the Colombian government, under Andres Pastrana, asked that the plan comprise 55 percent military aid and 45 percent developmental aid. In a move that probably made the president of the National Rifle Association, Charlton Heston, glow with patriotic pride, America upped the gun quota for Colombia, providing it with $1.3bn military aid package, worth 80 percent of the deal.
Now some of you Christopher Hitchens-hating, liberal scum are no doubt wondering how that much weaponry (Including 30 Black hawk helicopters 33 UH-1N helicopters and an estimated 200-300 US military 'advisors') will help sponsor human rights. And I say that it is totally wrong to question US foreign policy at this time! You don't understand America's pain! You Stalinist, anti-American bastards! You are saying those people at the world Trade center deserved to die...Oops sorry, wrong column: I got confused and thought I was an overweight, supposedly left-wing Journalist.
The Colombian government has the worst Human rights record in the Western Hemisphere - which, considering the competition in the region, is a hard won title. There are well proven links between the Colombian army and the paramilitary 'death squads' originally set up by landowners in the 1960's. Human Rights Watch, writing to Madeline Albright, the then US secretary of state , emphasised the collusion between the army and the "death Squads". It said that it had observed that the Colombian military and paramilitary units shared intelligence, weapons, vehicles, and Medical aid. In one case, "Death squads" attacked a village supposedly sympathetic to "leftist rebels': the squads arrived in Colombian army vehicles, owned by the 24th brigade, and murdered approximately 150 civilians.
Almost 80 percent of human rights abuses in Colombia have been committed by the paramilitary "death Squads". They have attacked human rights monitors and observers. they have played a major role in assassinating trade unionists, which has resulted in the the murders of more than 1,336 union activists in the past decade - more than in the rest of Latin America combined. The human rights department of the Central Unitaria de Trabajadores, Colombia's largest trade union federation, has had 3,000 of it's members killed since it was founded in the mid 1980's. For some time now the union has been fighting a war against terrorism, much of it funded by America.
For decades we have been able to point to the most evil group of thugs in the world's playground and be almost certain that the US has aided them in order to further its geopolitical interests.
I don't know if Osama bin Laden is guilty of master-minding the attack on the World Trade Center. However, that he and other mujahedin were armed, trained and funded by the US is proof that he is a Murderous, fanatical bastard."
From The New Statesman 8th October 2001
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(sorry, but it is quite funny)
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
that's what the article was called!
Interesting reading though
I wish my taxes didn't get spent like this!
because my mind and body certainly doesn't support it.
You dont support the fight against communism?
You would have been perfectly happy to allow the USSR to take full control of Afghanistan and then the entire middle eastern oilfields?
Im sure that would have been oh so much better than having a fight a small group of 50k Taleban armed with weapons dating from the 80's.
"Let's roll......" Todd Beamer, American Hero
didn't I mention I'm a commie
sorry
forgot
I'm not alowed to be anything other than what you want me to be
Do you agree that the communism of the USSR was not a very nice system. I have no problem with you being a communist so long as you dont force it upon others.
Do you think we shouldnt have bothered fighting the communist USSR? Should we have let them do to us what they did to those unfortunate to be under their heel? I believe it was somewhere in the region of 60 million dead at the hands of Russian communism.
"Let's roll......" Todd Beamer, American Hero
I suppose I am a snob who's left of left of centre.
Dunno what that makes me.
Does that mean you lean very much to the left and this causes you to walk round in circles ?
bittot
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I voted Labour so it's possible I'm a tory
Aren't the old ones the best!!!