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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
why don't people vote for any woman these days? the best prime minister we had was maggie thatcher!!!

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    you're joking, right?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by lucy180485:
    why don't people vote for any woman these days? the best prime minister we had was maggie thatcher!!!

    Well, voting for a woman would mean getting off your butt and voting, which I think probably puts most people off. Personally I have a massive crush on Anne Widecombe (sp?), but I can't admit that in public.

    TYT

  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Damn right. Maggie "Big Momma" T was the best thing to happen to this country - ever. HA!

    P.S. I'm back...

    Fish.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You guys are joking right?!! Maggie Thatcher?!! The most evil bitch in modern history?! I remember in nursery school, when we had to start paying for our milk!! I ask you! Tony Blair is ruthless (education fees) but that was just plain senseless!
    But seriously, she was a tyrant. I'm not saying we shouldn't have a woman PM, I think it would be a good idea (prehaps Tony could stay at home for a while and let Cherrie run the country...) but come on, Thatcher?

    blah...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Maggie Thatcher was a control freak obsessed with money and middle class people. If the conservative party had their own way we'd all be working in factories and lining their pockets with gold.
    We may have a woman prime minister in the future and one day we'll have an openly gay primeminister and a disabled primeminister and a primeminister who isn't whit!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    did any of you have to live through the thatcher years? did the miners stike touch your lives?
    For the younger viewers out there, a history lesson;
    In the early 1980's the tory goverment realised that they could make money for their friends and cronies by selling off every utility that the PEOPLE owned by selling to - get this THE PEOPLE!!!
    one of the thing s that came about was the closure of 80% of the coal mines in engalnd and wales. The miners decied to strike, and were thensubjected to the worst police violence that this country have ever seen.
    I had family in Stoke who got involved in the strikes, and one of my cousins was put in hospital by a brain dead pig who decdided he didnt like his face, and smaked him one with a riot batton. Later, no charges were levelled against the pig, but my cousin got charged with disturbing the peace, and assualting a police officer!!
    Thatcher approved of these tactics, and wanted the police to go further im sure.
    then theres the sinking of the Blegrano during the Falklands war, A ship that was moving away from the warzone, which got torpedoed at her order.
    then theres the shoot to kill order in Ireland, then therese the Poll tax, then theres the removal of the dole fro anyone under 18 eed i go on? we are still feeling the effects of that bitches efforts now, with fat cats and banks taking s much money as possible, the new deal etc......
    still think that shes a saint?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Agree with most of the things said here but I've got to take issue with a couple of points raised. The Belgrano sinking..we were at war with Argentina over their invasion of the Falklands. The direction this Argentinian warship was travelling was irrelevant. I have not seen any evidence to suggest that the warship was not heading out of the warzone and not to return. Maybe it was going back to get more troops or supplies which could have put our troops lives at risk. I'm sorry but if Argentina were willing to invade another dependant area then they should have been prepared to face the consequences, however tragic it may have been for them.
    Shoot to kill in Ireland..if a squaddie in Ireland is put in a situation that means he has to shoot a terrorist then he should shoot to kill. Wounded terrorists can still shoot back..dead ones can't. Also dead terrorists can't plant bombs like at Omagh.
    Getting back to Maggie - she was a bitch!!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    At last, someone with 1/2 a brain!!
    the belgrano was a HOSPTIAL ship, and not a troop carrie, as allegded by the goverment at the time. The direction it was facing does mean a lot. It was outside the exclusion zone (the warzone) and therefore by the rules of war, was untouchable. Just think if one of our ships had got sunk outside the area? we would have been crying for blood!!
    the shoot to kill policy; It was not just shoot to kill terrorists, but ANYONE that the army or the RUC suspected of having a gun or a bomb on their person. there were a few cases where innocent people got shot beacuse of a suspect bulge in their jackets.
    I agree with the fact that soldiers if they are fired upon should shoot to kill - thats their job at the end of the day, but if we accept the indiscriminate killing of 'suspects' doesnt that make us a police state? at bit 1984ish?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    R U Mad? U obviously were not a victim of 'Maggie Thatcher the Milk-Snatcher'

    Lucy, I take it you adopted this political view from your parents. Come back and talk politics when you have grown up a bit if you have no true opinion of your own at this present time.

    Thatcher was a bitch and still is. She uses Adolf Hitler-style ideoligies in a less extreme manner.

    She is a fascist bitch sitting on the border of the right-wing fence.

    Anyone that was at Nursery School in 1979 will more than likely agree. Hehehehe!

    What person in the right mind would take milk from toddlers just to line their own fat pockets? She's scum!

    Nuff said.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The General Belgrano was a hospital ship? Like heck. The G.B. was formerly the U.S.S. Phoenix, survivor of the 1941 Pearl Harbour attack. She was a heavily armed warship, primarily armed with guns. Her destroyer escorts carried Exocet guided missiles - she was an enemy-flagged ship of war.

    As for being outside the TEZ, well. The decision to restrict combat ops to the TEZ was an entirely voluntary one on the part of the Brits. AND the Argentinians had declared their own zone surrounding the British TEZ. The U.K. forces would not have contravened any of the rules of war to engage in unrestricted warfare. Also, the H.M.S. Conqueror received revised rules of engagement directing her to attack the G.B.

    Of course, the supreme irony is that there WAS no war - it was simply a military campaign. No declaration of war was made, no peace treaty was signed.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Right, let's get stuck in here. First off, The entire Falklands conflict was totally avoidable. The fact that Gen Galtieri was a pratt who thought he could deflect Argentine domestic opinion away from the fact that he was a murderous dictator who was screwing the country by stirring up the old Falklands/Malvinas thing. When Argentina started naval and troop exercises in the vicinity and generally sabre rattling, Thatcher ordered the British defences of the Falklands to be LOWERED thereby allowing the Argentinians an easy invasion so she could have her little war, gain massive public support and thereby trounce Labour at the 1983 general election. Before the 'war' the tories were in line for an electoral kicking.
    Add to this the aforementioned miners strike, the poll tax, the start of the wholesale destruction of the welfare state, the oppressive reduction of union and labour rights, the selling off at bargain basement prices of OUR industries - coal, trains, steel, BA, gas, telecom, water, electricity et al, all creating massive payments, bonuses and general windfalls to city supporters and cronies, the propogation of the 'ME' society which basically justifies societis propensity to say 'screw you' to the weakest in our society.
    Add to this the fact that she oversaw the largely corrupt arms race in the middle east which helped to fuel the Iran/Iraq war then the Gulf War, gave NO support to the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa (consistently opposing the sanctions which eventually led to Nelson Mandela's release and subsequent election)and has spent her time since being kicked out of office working for a tobacco company to persuade third world countries to let them poison their citizens (as they are running out of westerners to kill) and I think you'll agree that Mrs T was and remains a thoroughly unpleasant, nay evil woman whose (hopefully) not too distant death will only make the world a nicer place.

    Rant Over.
    BTW, She achieved absolutely sod all for women as well.
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