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Who is the UK's natural ally?
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Off of Sky News.
Who is the UK's natural ally?
Expires:22 Apr 2003
USA 58.86%
Europe 19.01%
Both 11.80%
Neither 10.31%
Posted here cause it would make for a discussion or because I liked the results.
Who is the UK's natural ally?
Expires:22 Apr 2003
USA 58.86%
Europe 19.01%
Both 11.80%
Neither 10.31%
Posted here cause it would make for a discussion or because I liked the results.
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That's exactly the point. Europe isn't united. The EU is an attempt for that, but so far the States are much more of a common factor, than Europe will be in the near future.
Therefore it is easier to view the US as an ally, as it's "one", and not thought of as a lot of different states.
So if you split the EU into it's components, do you think that any individual member state would register a 58% rating, like the US has?
Is anyone actually surprised by this "information"?
Not at all coming from a Murdoch organisation. Somewhat inevitable I think, I also would say it's one of those Sky News Active and website polls which as we all know "are not indicative of public opinion". I admit the US would come out on top but ask the same people the question "Is George Bush Britain's greatest ally?" and see how those numbers change! It's all in the question - there are lies, damned lies and Sky News opinion polls!
Actually, I think a lot of English people think that too. And we are not likely to consider Europe that close a friend, certainly not for the foreseeable future. It's something we've inherited from generation upon generation of ancestors, for whom invading France was a nice way to pass the time (Crecy, Agincourt, Blenheim....ah, the list goes on forever)
I reckon its probably the same in the UK these days PNJ as well. Its become a kind of melting pot these days as well. When the british press speaks of diversity they also mean on levels such as racial groupings, ethnic backgrounds, sexual orientation... that type of thing. Some people have different opinions on the whole topic but I'd say its a pretty diverse nation these days. same applies for most european countries. particularly France, Netherlands, Germany etc, which have also had large numbers of immigrants as well.
Jon, I think since France is supposedly 7% Muslim now that that's why they were against the war...even though Saddam and sons were not true Muslims.
Strangely enough I reckon the UK's natural allies lie within the commonwealth, as we still share a common monarch.
Countries like Australia and New Zealand are definitely natural allies, due to a shared history and a culture which has more similarities on a culinary and historical level as well as closer language ties. Countries such as India and many of the carribean nations also have strong ties with Britain, although whether they are natural allies is not as certain.
I think Europeans have a lot more respect for the British than the British show back to them. These days, I think they are probably closer allies than we think. I mean, perhaps not the french, but there is still a lot of respect for the British in Europe.
Not to say there isn't a link to the US either. Just pointing out, perhaps we shouldn't write off our European neighbours just yet.
(edited to correct some pathetic spelling errors!!)
I agree, most of Europe was on our side. After 9/11 the Queen said: "we are the same people". I think that's true...not just in terms of ethnicity but in the way we view the world, freedom and morality. The more I learn about Saddam and sons, the more I see this war as moral.
Not true. And a good portion of Europe had specialized troops in Iraq too.
France, Germany and Belguim have been marginalized. They are no longer seen as leaders...even within their own countries. Their economies will suffer this year not because of the organized boycotte of their goods...but by the general disgust at "appeasement" Europe and its lack of care for America's welfare.
For the last time, you have zero qualifications or firsthand experience anywhere in Europe. When you do perhaps youll be able to back up your claims with more than wishful thinking.
The minority of EU govts as well as the vast minority of the European general public supported the unilateralist approach adopted by Washington over this. More than 80% of the general populace across Europe were diametrically opposed.
looking back for your information:
http://www.nbc6.net/news/1882168/detail.html
The birth of the new European fortress shall ultimately bring hope to the destruction of Anglo-American imperialist Zionism.
Do you even know what zionism is?
"A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine."
"Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel"
So explain exactly how this new European Superstate going to stop that?
and very proud of it to.
Ah Kurgan. Might want to drop Moscow from your friends-of-UK list. Last Fall, 2002, Russian special ops troops trained Iraqis in espionage in training camps in Syria.
I'm posting this as a topic.
One word. Evidence. Just because somebody says something doesn't automatically make it true. PNJ I could tell you it's 1987 - doesn't make it true.
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You think that only Americans think that?
Make a poll and most foreigners won't be able to differ between Great Britain, England and the UK.
But ok, we'll focuse on the ignorance of Americans only. Even though that ignorance is commonly shared by most other nationalities.
To all intents and purposes, yes, they are. Think about it. With the exception of a few relatively unimportant matters that are decided on by devolved bodies like the Scottish Parliament, policy for the entire UK is made by Westminster. Now, how much influence do Welsh and Scottish MPs have on parliament as a whole? With the exception of the Rt Hon Gordon Brown, probably not much at all. I believe there are 72 seats in the commons representing Scotland, 40 for Wales, 18 for Northern Ireland, and 529 for England. That should tell you how much the UK is dominated by England, at least politically.