If you need urgent support, call 999 or go to your nearest A&E. To contact our Crisis Messenger (open 24/7) text THEMIX to 85258.
Read the community guidelines before posting ✨
Options
Republic of America?
Former Member
Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Here's an idea that would stop America thinking they are all powerful - what if all the other NATO countries declared war on America, overrun it, and then decisions to be made in America would be based on decisions made in a republic between the other member nations. Hopefully this would mean America loses it's cockiness in thinking it owns the world and can attack who they want.
I was reading a case study the other day - it was a comparison between the Old British Empire and the USA now.
Turns out they are both 'peacekeeper' states - seeing as they are/were the most powerful countries of their time, they took it upon themselves to keep the world stable and peaceful. However, it was interesting to note, that the British Empire built embassys, sent envoys and ambassadors, and set up trade deals to attain a foothold in countries that otherwise could be seen as 'rogue nations'.
America, on the otherhand, seem to have a preference towards aircraft carriers, F18s and Tanks. What they should do is make propaganda - go to Saddam and say they don't have a problem with Iraq - they have a problem with him and want him to abdicate, and if he doesn't comply they will invade. Then see how much his people will love him.
That's pretty cruel actually, but I';m sure America's done far worse.
It just confuses me how the most 'enlightened' nation in the world can have so much bloodlust. And it scares me that everyday America or one of its close allies is saying things that mean war is inevitable. Ah well, I'm gonna be at home in 50 years, watching a cheap film about the thousands of Americans, and the tens of thousands or innocent Iraqis, who died, just because....
Wait a sec... Why does America want to go to war? Saddam is no way gonna attack America because he knows he will lose. I don't get it....
I was reading a case study the other day - it was a comparison between the Old British Empire and the USA now.
Turns out they are both 'peacekeeper' states - seeing as they are/were the most powerful countries of their time, they took it upon themselves to keep the world stable and peaceful. However, it was interesting to note, that the British Empire built embassys, sent envoys and ambassadors, and set up trade deals to attain a foothold in countries that otherwise could be seen as 'rogue nations'.
America, on the otherhand, seem to have a preference towards aircraft carriers, F18s and Tanks. What they should do is make propaganda - go to Saddam and say they don't have a problem with Iraq - they have a problem with him and want him to abdicate, and if he doesn't comply they will invade. Then see how much his people will love him.
That's pretty cruel actually, but I';m sure America's done far worse.
It just confuses me how the most 'enlightened' nation in the world can have so much bloodlust. And it scares me that everyday America or one of its close allies is saying things that mean war is inevitable. Ah well, I'm gonna be at home in 50 years, watching a cheap film about the thousands of Americans, and the tens of thousands or innocent Iraqis, who died, just because....
Wait a sec... Why does America want to go to war? Saddam is no way gonna attack America because he knows he will lose. I don't get it....
0
Comments
First, the United States already is a Republic.
Second, what makes you think that all the other NATO nations together could defeat the United States? You're dreaming. And overrun the US? You mean the nation with all those privately owned guns? Now you are really dreaming...
As Greenhat suggests... easier in the pondering, than in the doing.
Think about those 1,000,000+ Vietnam veterans - the silent militia - who not only have more weapons than you can conceive of, and the training to use them, but also the experience.
How about the Gulf War vets?
And on.
No military on earth, even collectively, could defeat the US, on US soil. And even IF it were done, how could you EVER hold onto it?
Ready to stand up and be counted, when I personally own half a dozen rifles which could end your day from a quarter mile away? Easily...
The rest of the supposition? Am not going to address, because it is based upon a fallacy...
perhaps because in world war 2 it inspired more nationalism than ever before but now they are trying to recur that with stupid warmongering.
You posed the idea of invading the U.S. The above individuals replied about defending it (you talk like it would be a walk in the park). We are only obsessed with our FREEDOM and the U.S. Constitution. Homicidal dictators/religious extremists only understand force. The U.S. is no longer afraid to apply that force wherever it will improve the safety of the world and the U.S. We tried euro stile appeasement during the 90s (92-99) and all it caused was more american deaths. I hope and pray that Saddam will disarm peacefully. We could than bring our troops home without war. If he doesn't, he will be disarmed.
if saddam does have these hidden weapons, why not leet the UN weapon inspectors get rid of the, if there are some that they havent found already then invading will surely only cause saddam to use them. I think its pretty clear that if it does go to war Saddam won't be in power afterwards - meaning he is going to try every option to inflict damage upon his enemies. who knows if there wont be outbreaks of Anthrax all over America and England as soon as the first tank rolls into Iraq?
Are you afraid to leave the house? Afterall, you might get hit by a car...
The USA took on the role of global economic polic force when it signed the Bretton Woods agreement in which the US dollar was tied to the value of gold.
In order to guarantee global stability, the US was then often forced to pursue interests not concordant with that of it's own nationalistic ones, in order to better prolong global recovery.
It has only been since 1974, in the collapse of Bretton Woods, that the USA has not tried the economic route.
Also; the US Armed Forces are not necessarily the most powerful. What they are is incredibly well trained & equipped, and their technology allows them to project force like no other. In a set piece land war, the US Army would find it difficult to overcome the Chinese, for example. But their force projection would not let them fight a set piece battle.
The continuing quest to open all markets is the driving force behind US worldwide economic dominance, much more effective then any war or army.........
The Soviet Empire was not defeated by the United States on Soviet soil anymore than the British Empire was defeated on British soil. Both of these empires rotted from the inside to the point where they could no longer maintain their possessions. The United States will fall in precisely the same manner within fifteen years. Massive decay at home followed by bankruptcy incurred by foreign interventions.
Within 15 years?
Jawohl, Herr Gruppenfuher. I see and know the colour of your spots.
The American military of 2020 will look much like the former Soviet military of 2003 - fading away.
That is frankly incredibly unlikely, it is wobbling at the moment but that is normal, the US is an economic superpower and is likely to be the dominant force for a very long time methinks...........