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Denting the armour of the war machine
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On December the 8th a group called The War Against The Terrorist Society linked to the anti-war movement carried out direct action against an army recruiting office in Bristol in response to the continued threat to attack Iraq by Bush and Blair.
Here is the source of this article.Night time, Dec. 8th – The Armed Forces recruitment office in central Bristol was attacked. All windows were smashed, locks glued and walls splattered with blood-red paint. “NO WAR” was the spraypaint message.
We call on any young people who may be thinking of a career in the armed forces to think about the reality of war. Destroying and killing is not a good job. This is direct action against state terrorism and social control. It is also a call to the anti-war movement to begin serious, effective resistance. The genocidal system is not challenged by marches, rallies and petitions. Polite protest poses no threat to the war machine. It is time now to get in the way and do some damage. We encourage direct action to sabotage the war effort.
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Doesn't this posted smell like old toast?
i hope they put you in the big house. five years would shut you up.
Destroying being exactly what you and your ilk just engaged in, fool. I hope you meet armed guards on your next little excursion.
Have you never heard the phrase that 'The soldier is the last man to wish for war, for he must fight it'? Have you still not grasped the concept that some wars need to be fought? Or would you still contend that no-one should have taken a stand against the Axis powers?
Yes, it does a bit. The nick changes but the rhetoric stays the same.
Why wish for the big house, Signor Roll? If he and his ilk strike a military installation like a barracks, shipyard or RAF base where the men at the gatehouse are armed there could be a far more permanent solution to the problem. As Thanatos might say, 'Mineral deficiency corrected by high-speed injection.'
Direct action like this on its own though wont stop the war, but it will inspire other people to take things further than the usual A to B protest march and lobby of Parliament. And that is the real reason that I think that it was done to inspire masses of people in the anti-war movement to take things further and move from protest to civil disobedience.
No it wont, it will cause all the moderates to distance themselves from your cause as quickly as possible.
One group within the anti-war movement has already come up with an inoventive idea for an anti-war action. Here is their suggestion.
You are truly an idiot. Why don't you try this type of protest on the SAS barracks... :rolleyes:
And our acts of "terrorism" are justified if Saddam or some other Iraqi madman decides to use biological weapons on us.
I hope you rot, but not after being kicked in the groin repeatedly by a bunch of troopers.
Direct action like this won't rally support, it'll get you put away. I'm in a right mind to encourage Karla and Dom to send your message along with your details to the police.
I dont visit the drugs forum so wouldnt know:angel:
Cant the mods ban his IP or something?
As for killing being part of the job. Mieh? Men, women, children. All the same if they don't comply really aren't they!
The thing about these actions is that they are ment to give inspiration to other anti-war activists and people who are against the coming war to go out and do something effective. That can be anything from a small act such as large hanging a banner across a motorway bridge saying "No War on Iraq - no blood for oil", to organsing an occupation of an arms companys office or a blockade of a local high street in protest at government plans to attack Iraq.
The main thing is that individual acts of vandalism against military property should not be seem as the be all of the anti-war movement but an inspiration for people who are against the war to go out and do something or organise some action against the war as only a mass militant anti-war movement will stop this coming war with Iraq.
Mass militant action won't stop the war because the majority of people would rather see a war that gets saddam out of the way instead of a war that will see bio weapons being released in our cities.
This is why you just dont get it...Thats all that will be remembered by the people...Its the same thing with anti-capitalism..
What does everyone think when you mention anti-capitalism to them? Some stupid hairy hippy lobbing a brick through a macdonalds window...Thats it.
If you want to stop a war going ahead you need popular support from the people. You do not need increased acts of violence carried out by the extremist elements. All that does is alienate your moderate support. People will start to associate the anti-war movement with a bunch of losers who attack military bases and terrify young soldiers.
Besides, its not even the soldiers you need to be dealing with, they are just pawns. You need to protest in front of the puppetmasters, the politicians.
You will never get anywhere until you realise the nature of people. You and those like you are more alien to the 'people' of this country than the politicians are yet you think you are so close to them.
It would make the government look very weak. If anything it will make them more resiliant towards this cause and groups such as these.
You really dont get it do you
Here is the source of that article.
The government of the USA and Britain has no justification whatsoever for a war against Iraq as A there is no evidence that Iraq plans to attack any other country, B there is no solid evidence that Iraq has ever supplied terrorist groups with deadly weapons, and C, there is evidence that Iraq still posses weapons of mass destruction as so far UN weapons inspectors have found no trace of them!
If there is a war with Iraq then it will be tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children who will suffer as a result and it will be a misguided war which will only increase hatred amongst the arab world towards Britain and America and therefore make us a target for fanatical Islamic terrorist groups more than ever.
And if there is a justified war against another country, for example Russia or China then our ability to defend ourselves is SIGNIFICANTLY reduced.
ALL international communications traffic is monitored at Menwith hill, civilian and military. Without it the government's ability to intercept information regarding terrorist activities within our own country is SIGNIFICANTLY reduced.
We caught the terrorists plotting to bomb the underground using telecommunications information gathered at Menwith Hill along with other sources.
But then of course, you stinking leftist twats don't think about the bigger picture, the above actions successfully putting the lives of 60 million people here and 280 million in the USA in jeopardy. Well done.
Nobody gives a shit about the tens of thousands who MIGHT die in the middle east if it means saving the lives of nearly a BILLION people living in Europe and the USA who WILL die if Saddam or Osama unleashes a biological plague on us.
The workers of other countries have no interest in fighting any of their bosses wars! We need to replace the reactionary ideas of nationalism and patriotism with international working class solidarity!
If tens of thousands of working class Iraqi people die then that is just as bad as if tens of thousands of British people die. The workers of the world have no country!
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk
how about going getting a fucking job and then you can attack a boss of your own instead of all the other bosses who are feeding you right now you toss pot.
Oh really? As MacKenZie asked earlier, would you really prefer that we had sat on our hands while the Nazis tried to conquer the world, eliminating any "inferior" races along the way?
As for creating a workers socialist society, that's been tried a few times before, and, in case you hadn't noticed, it really didn't work all that well. Human nature, in the majority of cases, will not allow an idea like communism to work; there's too much possibility for the greed and corruption of a few to cripple the system.
As balddog pointed out, your little escapades will not draw flocks of anti-war protestors to your cause, but will instead drive away the moderates who are afraid to be seen to be associated with people like you.
Finally, whether you agree with the war or not, you really ought to understand that the prime function of the armed forces is the protection of the people. Why are you trying to make their job more difficult?