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England Has Worst Crime Rate In Europe ~~
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I just read this on one of our gun boards...I can drag it over if desired but frankly I just had to ask:
Why do you put up with it?
Is it lost self esteme or what...? When I was a kid the 'ol pirate kingdom' was not made up of folks who allowed the criminal element to mess with them! What do you blame this problem on? Is it all internan, growing criminal element, racial, emigrant, social decay...?
Where are you going with this criminal fifth column element in your midst?
:eek2:
Why do you put up with it?
Is it lost self esteme or what...? When I was a kid the 'ol pirate kingdom' was not made up of folks who allowed the criminal element to mess with them! What do you blame this problem on? Is it all internan, growing criminal element, racial, emigrant, social decay...?
Where are you going with this criminal fifth column element in your midst?
:eek2:
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teenage pregnancies too (see the 12 year old girl thread).
Although, religion may be and wrongly so be the cause of many wars (which is what atheists bring up) it is also a source of morals. Believing in God, and in accountability gives someone a purpose and reason to be ethical and not commit crime, etc. Otherwise the criminal has the attitude "I am gonna die and what the heck, I'm not going to get caught..." whereas if you believe in God you at least accept God knows everything and will make you accountable.
8.00pm Mon ITV. Tonight with Trevor McDonald Pre-Teen Pregnancy Investigation into why Britain has such a bad record on pre-teenage pregnancy in comparison with the rest of Europe, canvassing the views of health experts and talking to some of the country's youngest parents for a first-hand perspective
Err... excuse me?!
First of all, not all gods are all-knowing. Theistic ones are, by definition, but there are non-theistic gods. Most of the Norse gods, for example, were not blessed with total knowledge; only Odin had foreknowledge of the future.
Secondly, are you really so naïve as to think that belief in a god automatically prevents someone from acting 'immorally' or 'unethically'? (Whatever those last words mean. Do you have definitions?) I'm pretty sure we can scour the archives and find plenty of examples of believers who acted in the most atrocious ways. (But I forget: you will doubtless contend that such people were not 'true believers' or some such, yes?)
Thirdly, it is also not the case that atheists are de facto 'immoral' or 'unethical,' or somehow bound to become criminals. I offer myself and my own conduct as counterexamples to that assertion.
I have no damned idea. It sickens me, it really does. Perhaps it does have something to do with a lack of a Second Amendment over here -- certainly it seems that 'self defence' is frowned upon.
By the way, do you mean England... or Britain?
England is ........well.......England!
Did I get that right?
England is England.
Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales.
The United Kingdom is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
The USA has the highest rate in the Western world. I fail to see your point. Please sort your own problems out before you point out ours, there's a good lad.:rolleyes:
Stick to the fantasy world of g*n boards if you want to discuss this pointless issue please.
btw, I really have no quarrel with anyone who does not wish to defend themselves...just means more for me!
Looks like Tuesday may be 'jumpoff' day...get ready!
Of course, learning not to identify England with Britain is a similar problem to identifying all the states of the American Union. As our cousins have reminded us on several occasions, if one takes as sample points the various States of the USA one gets a strong negative correlation between civilian firearms ownership and violent crime rates. (Extremes: California vs. Oregon and Washington, IIRC.)
Of course, if one widens the sample space to include various Third World countries, the "an armed society is a polite society" correlation breaks down entirely.
The moral, of course, is that it's not how many measurements you make that matters -- it's which ones you choose to ignore.
(And our American cousins probably have as much 'right' to lecture us about law and order in our land as we do to lecture them about it in theirs... or how they choose to prosecute foreign wars.)