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'Web sex not abuse'

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
After opening up to my 'psychologist' about sexual engagements via the internet, I have found myself in rather a rut more than anything. Exposing my breasts to older men on-line. Most people at my age range, know the joy you get out of normal sex, even though web-sex isn't the same, it still get's me what I need.

After breaking up with my partner a few weeks back, I find myself rather in a trap and unable to express my sexual desires other than it being over the internet. After opening up to my psychologist about the behaviour I was engaging in, he informed CEOP and Social services, as I'm still seen as a minor in their eyes.

It's behaviour I would like to stop, but I get a thrilling rush out of it and it's just constant night time thing. It's a similar rush to just watching porn, but not being as risky, but I prefer the web-sex, even if I can't see what it is all the time.

So, my psychologist thinks I'm being sexually abused via the internet, and meeting these 'older men's' desires, and they are using me, but it's out of choice, so I don't really see how it would fall in to me being at risk.

JamesIsNotOnFire

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As far as the law is concerned, you're a minor and therefore you are being abused.

    However, ignoring your age briefly, It's a behaviour you aren't in control of, so these people are taking advantage of that - and taking advantage of someone is abuse.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    do you feel like having older men wanking over you gives you some sort of validation as a person/woman?
    What is it that gives you the thrill?

    A lot of people get a kick out of being exhibitionist, but this is quite risky behaviour. What you put on the internet may never be able to be undone and this may have bad consequences for you later
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Being 16, aren't I at an age were I can choose what to express with my own body? I understand the side of abuse to it - But it's something that I do and I so chose to do it. - For me the joy comes out of it being risky, because I could just spend endless hours masturbating during a night time.

    I'm not to sure what you mean by it giving me some sort of validation, as I'm not really testing anything - I guess the issue for me, is it being on the internet and effecting the future. But like I said, I chose to do it, but I'm unable to control it, as much as I tell my self, I'm not going to do it today.

    But then, I guess I'm at that point in life what many teenagers get, needing to watch porn, exploring, etc...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    16 isnt a minor. Im not sure why social services would be interested?

    Tbf, i dont really have much feelings either way over people wanting internet sex. Youre over the age of consent, so go for your life, although id imagine that it is a self esteem boost for you, therefore validation of sorts.
    Its also not healthy to not be able to stop yourself from engaging in sexual acts
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    But like I said, I chose to do it, but I'm unable to control it, as much as I tell my self, I'm not going to do it today.

    That's a complete contradiction....

    If you can't control it, then it's not a choice.

    Also, if you are telling yourself "I'm not going to do it today", doesn't that suggest that deep down you don't want to do it.....and you are just addicted to whatever thrill it gives you?

    As Suzy said, if having dirty old men wanking over you does it for you.....fair enough, but i personally don't think it's healthy behaviour and that there will be a point in the future when you seriously regret it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    you can choose what to express with your own body of course, but its worth thinking about what it is youre expressing and why youre wanting to express it to strangers

    Have you been abused in the past?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    16 isnt a minor. Im not sure why social services would be interested?

    Tbf, i dont really have much feelings either way over people wanting internet sex. Youre over the age of consent, so go for your life, although id imagine that it is a self esteem boost for you, therefore validation of sorts.
    Its also not healthy to not be able to stop yourself from engaging in sexual acts

    Minor is somebody under 18, is it not?

    I get where you're coming from Neddy, and I do have the worry of how it may affect my future. I get most of the joy from the 'risk' of it all. The risky behaviour, often it's just me on webcam, and alternative people are not viewable, but I still do it, and I do want to stop, but I can't, if you get where I'm coming from?

    Was hoping I would find someone in my situation to be honest, suggesting alternative ways to cope with this, or how to stop? I have been abused in the past, but it was quiet a long time ago now! - I've had social services involved in my case for quite some time.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Depends on your jurisdiction, if you're outside the UK you might be below the age of consent
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In the uk if your 16 you can have physical sex but not online sex. Someone over 18 (or under 18 technically) having online sex or being in possession of indecent images of someone under 18 is breaking the law. (have had experience with this kinda thing).

    Tbh from me own experience with that kinda thing and looking back at it i think to an extent it is abuse, because you're vunrable and they take advantage of that. Personally i think its risky and can be pretty damaging and wouldn't personally advocate it as being a good idea.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Minor is somebody under 18, is it not?

    Was hoping I would find someone in my situation to be honest, suggesting alternative ways to cope with this, or how to stop? I have been abused in the past, but it was quiet a long time ago now! - I've had social services involved in my case for quite some time.


    When i spoke about something like this we discovered a lot of it was down to my low self worth because of abuse and how i didn't view myself as worth much more. I think the best way to deal with it and stop it is it look at why you do it and maybe about your self worth and need to do it. I think best thing is to keep away from it and try and do things to occupy your time and talk about it with your therapist.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    16 isnt a minor. Im not sure why social services would be interested?

    Until 18 there are still potential CP implications
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    16 year olds can consent to sex but not to having photos of themselves taken. Still CP implications for photos of people under 18.

    Your therapist has a legal duty to disclose potential abuse, it is an area where the law gives no wriggle room. The law says it trumps your right to confidentiality. However I doubt anything will come of it, its just something that has to be done.

    What do you get out of exposing yourself to strangers on the internet? Validation or a sexual thrill or both? You need to be careful as the internet is full of photos of teenage girls who've exposed themselves on webcam; those photos will never disappear. You need to think about that
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Do you get more of a thrill from displaying yourself as an image on a screen for other peoples titillation and masturbation , rather than mutually enjoying actual sex?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just to echo AR. You do need to be very careful. You don't know if someone is snapping screen shots of you or even recording it to put out on the internet and once they're out there that's pretty much it. You don't know who will get their hands on them. This is also the same reason I'll never consent to partners filming/taking intimate photos.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm rather ridden with guilt over this. Yet I still have been exposing myself. I'm inside of the UK. I get both validation and sexual thrill. I know the risks of exposing yourself and everything, but I'm finding the sexual rush and validation great so great, I'm unable to actually stop. I ask them not to take pictures though, and they always say they won't take pictures. But I must have a hot head to believe that, right?

    But I'm at that age were sex seems great weather through the internet or in real life, even if I did do it in real life, who would I have sex with is a quesion? I'm no longer in a relationship. My webcam sex increased since breaking up with my boy friend and I'm still not sure as to why.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My parents will be informed of my behaviour soon, I'm rather worried, and unsure what action I should take?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hi JamesIsNotOnFire

    Welcome to the boards :wave:

    It's good that you are able to share this here and get advice from different people- and if some have gone through something similar it can help :)

    As it's been mentioned, the sexual age of consent in the UK is 16, and in terms of footage (picture or video) taken of you when you are under 18 is seen as a paedophilic image.

    Have a look at our articles on the age of consent, safe webcam sex and an law outlook on indecent photographs.

    Have you been able to talk to friends or family about this? Perhaps you could speak to someone about, as you say, feeling addicted - as it seems your therapist perhaps has taken a different approach on this. Perhaps calling Samaritans could help, as it is anonymous.

    Let us know how you get on, and as everyone has mentioned, stay safe *hug*
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think internet sex is more safer than real world sex. This behavior will not fall you any risky situation. So why you will stop. Sex about pleasure. So do it.
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