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Can you help me make a few friends so I can get out more.

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Im looking for a friend or two I can hang out with. Id like to meet a nice girl too.

I used to work friday-saturday nights part time, I've now left that job for a temp monday-friday role in an office for a few months. My job doesn't have a social side.

I've tried online dating, dance classes, the gym, social activitiy groups and a karate class but none of it has worked out. I feel dispondent. Can you offer me some help?

I have done charity work, and tried therapy too. I'm not in the right position to move. I've tried retraining at college (it didn't work out) and was at Uni before.

If you've got any ideas I'd be very grateful.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You say you're disappointed with the things you've tried, how long did you try them for? What were you disappointed with?

    Maybe it's worth giving some things another go, but with a different attitude- go in with the intention of having fun and if you meet some friends/a girl while you're there see it as a bonus not the main objective! I think you'll need to stick at activities a while, you wont get to know anyone in the first few sessions.

    Maybe try volunteering in a charity shop at weekends, they're always grateful for the extra help and I met some lovely people while working in an Oxfam shop :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thank-you Angel, in response to your question:
    I volunteered for over 2 years, no people my age, or they were committed with families and children and unable to hang out. As I work Monday to Friday, working another day leaves me with very little time to actually do anything with any friends I might meet through volunteering outside of work.
    I attended a drama group rehearsal’s for 6 months, and only got to sweep the floors once. I didn’t feel at ease with the idea of performing anyway.
    I’ve done karate for about 19yrs, there are some social plus’s but no-one my age goes.
    I tried the gym on and off for a few years, no-body talks to anyone they don’t know it’s all very serious.
    Dance class: I went to 2-3 sessions. All couples and they left straight after the lesson.
    Internet dating: Onto my 3rd dating site, so that’s 3 years. Really poor response rates and no meets.
    I’ve gone to a social activities group which is failing through lack of support for 3-4 years.

    I have looked at what’s going on in the paper, library, and local college and not seen anything I can get involved with.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Try getting involved with your local time bank if you have one - lots of different volunteering opinions and lots of different people. I've met a lovely woman in her 30s who is a recovering addict and she's been coming to help me with doing up my house so often she's becoming a really good friend.

    What kind of things so you like? What about going to gigs? Book clubs, film clubs, craft nights? What about volunteering in different places like animal shelters or soup kitchens? Have you thought about going on a confidence course? Most local NHS' do one.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I tried a book club once, I wasn't interested in the books so left it, I have no-one to attend gigs with which was my point, The animal shelter RSPCA has a large waiting list, and the soup kitchen operates late at night on another side of town so getting there and back would be a headache. I've tried counselling and medication through the NHS my low mood mostly caused by family troubles. The only thing I lack confidence in is the NHS.
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    **helen****helen** Deactivated Posts: 9,235 Supreme Poster
    Tom82 wrote: »
    Thank-you Angel, in response to your question:
    I volunteered for over 2 years, no people my age, or they were committed with families and children and unable to hang out. As I work Monday to Friday, working another day leaves me with very little time to actually do anything with any friends I might meet through volunteering outside of work.
    I attended a drama group rehearsal’s for 6 months, and only got to sweep the floors once. I didn’t feel at ease with the idea of performing anyway.
    I’ve done karate for about 19yrs, there are some social plus’s but no-one my age goes.
    I tried the gym on and off for a few years, no-body talks to anyone they don’t know it’s all very serious.
    Dance class: I went to 2-3 sessions. All couples and they left straight after the lesson.
    Internet dating: Onto my 3rd dating site, so that’s 3 years. Really poor response rates and no meets.
    I’ve gone to a social activities group which is failing through lack of support for 3-4 years.

    I have looked at what’s going on in the paper, library, and local college and not seen anything I can get involved with.

    Hi Tom, it's understandable you feel so disheartened considering how many different options you've tried. It's really positive that you want to keep exploring your options though and try to make the best of your current location knowing that there's no easy answer.

    It sounds like you struggle to make meaningful connections with people and this might be linked to anxiety or perhaps having too much expectation in relation to specific events. You mentioned there was a quiz through work the other day - how did that go? It would be interesting to know a bit more about your general approach to chatting with people.

    Also, on the online dating side - have you ever shown others your profile for feedback? I also wondered if you focussed your efforts on a specific type of girl - and whether or not it might be worth approaching a wider range to challenge your expectations?

    Looking to your past a little - at times in your life when you've been surrounded by people the same age with a greater likelihood of more similar life circumstances - e.g. at school, college or uni - how have you related to those people, felt about them and approached friendships? The reason I ask this is because the way we interact with people generally is really relevant to our success with making friends.

    Really pleased that you've posted again about this as it's definitely worth persevering with.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I used to be the same, I didn't have many friends, and generally was going through a really crappy time. My life was work-home-work-home and vicious cycle of feeling rubbish.

    When I started to volunteer I met some amazing people and friends, that I am close with now. Do you have any hobbies that you enjoy?

    Hope you start to feel better soon :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I have to say (and correct me if I'm wrong!) but you do seem a little defeatist. If you go to a book club and you don't like the books then suggest some you do! Go to gigs and talk to people. There are so so many other animal places - cats protection, dogs trust, local charities. You need to put effort it and not expect friends to just land up in your lap! Be assertive and do stuff that works for you, but be confident and talk to people just for the sake of it - even if its talking about the weather at the bus stop with someone - it's a good start.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Miss_Riot wrote: »
    even if its talking about the weather at the bus stop with someone - it's a good start.

    I met one of my friends at the bus station. It happens :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    When I went to the quiz I got involved and tried to help come up with answers. I also made casual conversation. It seemed everyone had already settled into their friendship groups, to give an example: one man from my team had friends on the next table. I'd try to speak to them, and join in. They'd make little effort to speak back. When the quiz finished I thought people would stay for a drink and a chat, but they all left for home and were gone within 15 minute.

    I have shown my online dating profile to other people for feedback we made changes, and it didn't make a difference. I was a bit shy/quiet at school and college. At uni I had my head down a lot, terrified of failing. I have since done a lot of work to be more social and self assured. Unfortunately I don't have the safety net associated with friends of old.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I do not enjoy reading full stop, I could do it for a week but I'm not going to keep it up. I'd like to go to gig's but have no-one to go to them with. In my town there is RSPCA, and that's pretty much it. I'm allergic to cat hair too lol.

    I think you've given your answer a lot of thought, it comes from a good place and I am grateful. I'm not a defeatist but there are some pretty big obstacles.

    I also chat about the weather at a bus stop.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Miss_Riot wrote: »
    I have to say (and correct me if I'm wrong!) but you do seem a little defeatist. If you go to a book club and you don't like the books then suggest some you do! Go to gigs and talk to people. There are so so many other animal places - cats protection, dogs trust, local charities. You need to put effort it and not expect friends to just land up in your lap! Be assertive and do stuff that works for you, but be confident and talk to people just for the sake of it - even if its talking about the weather at the bus stop with someone - it's a good start.

    This.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    We're all entitled to our opinions. Do you have any suggestions to overcome the obstacles I mentioned?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    helen asked a good question.
    How did you relate to people at school?

    How do you choose the people that you want to be friends with
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well what exactly is it that you see as your obstacles? The lack of opportunities to meet people, your confidence or is it other people?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I was quiet, and waited to be approached first. I assumed people didn't like me. I was very grateful for people who gave me the time of day. Today I know people can like me, and I am prepared to start a conversation too. Just saying hello to someone you often see can sow the seeds for friendship later on.

    In the early years I'd hide away in the library at lunch not saying a lot. Later on I tried to be more social, I'd play football or basketball with the other lads.

    I remember a girl at school asking if I'd take her to the school leaving party. I thought it was some way to mock me, I now believe it was a big mistake and saying yes could have done me the world of good.

    I like people who show others respect and try to do the right thing. I like a bit of humor to make the conversation flow more freely. I think a lot of people including myself made friends organically with the people who were in their class at school. I didn't do as much as others and didn't keep in contact. Poor judgement on my part back then. I was happy to make friends with all different kinds of people.

    I've bared my soul a bit telling you this.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    lack of opportunities
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    its good!

    If socialising is a struggle then maybe youd relate more to people who also are a bit more introverted. Maybe youre checking out the wrong places,
    online is a good way to start
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Tom82 wrote: »
    lack of opportunities

    What kind of opportunities to meet people would you like? What would be your ideal situation?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't know any more, I tried the things I thought would help and they didn't. I think sharing activities helps.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I agree with the online thing. I couldn't bring myself to try groups or other such activities like you had, but I had had enough of being so lonely. It was a general website for personal ads - buying, selling, jobs, meetups, etc... and I just clicked one for female friends. It ended up being a large group of similar aged women who were in the same lack of friends situation for various reasons. I ended up meeting two very good friends through it, and met more people through them.

    Long story... still long, maybe a thing like that would be more appropriate. I could never imagine how many other adults had no friends and wanted them. Some people are shy, are socially awkward, they move, all of their friends move, maybe all of their friends have started having families and they don't, maybe work got to them and over the years they lost friends... no matter how it happens, a lot of grown up people don't have enough friends! I don't know what kind of websites are availabe in the UK for that kind of thing, but really, just look for a group of people who are looking for friends!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I just saw that Meetup.com is available in the UK, have you tried them? I just had a search through a couple areas (I'm not in the UK, so I don't know areas) and they seem to be quite active as well. There seem to be a lot of groups for people to be "out and about" in the area, movies, dinner and what not... but also, maybe look for a more intimate setting, with a limited number of guest spots available. Another example, my friend does a game night at her house via meetup. 10 people. Everybody likes a board game and it is a good oppertunity to get to know people on a one on one basis, and you don't have to deal with there being a ton of other people to compete with.

    I just picked London, they have a group casual dinner for shy and lonely people, another group for shy people that says some meetups are deliberatly kept small to avoid issues, really, lots of shy or socially anxious related groups. There are several for board games, many animal related groups including wildlife watchers.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I know all about meetup. I've been on it many times and there isn't anything I could get involved with in my area. I live hundreds of miles away from London. I have tried a social activities group that just seemed to attract awkward people, it's not getting much support these days and not many events actually happen.

    I said I was shy/socially awkard at school, not now.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    what area do you live in roughly?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I live in Derby, Not Derbyshire so I would struggle for transport if you just name something in Derbyshire.

    I have tried Focus social activities group. I know Derby sociables is mentioned on meetup but I don't feel comfortable going to another group like that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Derby and Nottingham are heaving with things to do! I'm sure if you had a look online again you'd find something.

    I don't think you should just brush things off because you've tried them before, I think you need to try things again. The bus network in the midlands is really really good, as are trains and trams (although not sure they've spread to Derby yet). Transport shouldn't be a problem :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Derby always plays second fiddle to Nottingham for things to do, there are no trams here, and it is still an issue.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Tom82 wrote: »
    Derby always plays second fiddle to Nottingham for things to do, there are no trams here, and it is still an issue.

    There are buses and trains into Nottigham I'm sure. I often go between Derby (Chaddesden) and Nottingham city centre, and then areas like Long Eaton, Sandiacre etc etc. on the bus.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Do you catch public transport to those destinations at night as your advocating me to do, and if so to do what?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Tom82 wrote: »
    Do you catch public transport to those destinations at night as your advocating me to do, and if so to do what?

    I don't know about social groups etc, but Nottingham has some good night clubs and music venues. For smaller ones look at places like The Alley Cafe (near the city centre) The Maze, The Malt Cross.
    There's a lot of really nice pubs, look at ones run by the castle rock brewery (e.g The Vat and Fiddle, Fox and Crown... there's loads)
    Nottingham Library is massive, and has a lovely art gallery. Not the best place to meet people, but very nice all the same.
    There's the Robin Hood festival which is normally in August, it's always a laugh and very friendly.

    I really think you should look at using public transport to get to places maybe a little further out from where you are, the bus system in Derby/Nottingham is very good- the buses are normally lovely, and they go fairly often.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It is all very well naming bars and clubs but I told you I do not have anyone to go-to them with.
    The Derby bus service gets a lot worse after 7pm. Now the Nottingham to Derby operator is different to the Arriva Derby ones so I cannot buy a ticket to accommodate both. With irregularity I’d end up standing waiting for an excessive amount of time too.
    The buses definitely aren’t lovely I catch them nearly every day.
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