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"Shocking explicit material" used to teach 5 years olds sex ed

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Report-hits-shocking-explicit-material-used-teach-sex-education-year-olds/article-3311550-detail/article.html

:eek: That is just wrong. Why do young children need to learn stuff this early? I personally wouldn't want any future children on mine learning about sex ed this early - especially this stuff.
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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aside from this:
    Another, called The Primary School Sex And Relationships Education Pack by HIT UK, includes material to allow children aged five to 11 to learn about different sexual positions and prostitution.

    I don't see the issue at all.

    Above quote has actually made me laugh, more than enraged though.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The Daily Mail have also covered this story.
  • littlemissylittlemissy knit chick Posts: 9,972
    *sigh*

    Children aged 5 don't learn about how to perform oral, for example. Children in KS1 learn about the body - what the different parts of the body are, their functions and the like. You build up to teaching about things like contraception, penetration and the ins and outs, so to speak. It's like training to be a surgeon - you don't learn how to remove a kidney before you learn where everything is.

    Sex Ed in schools *has* to improve. It's shocking. And this is the start of it. It's trying to make it less of a taboo subject. And if people read the guidelines properly instead of sensationalising them, like the Christian Institute has done, then they would realise it would be an improvement to the current system.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Pretty sure we had the 'Let's Talk About Sex' book in primary school. If you read the caption it is singled out for having a chapter called "straight and gay". ...... so what?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    *sigh*

    Children aged 5 don't learn about how to perform oral, for example. Children in KS1 learn about the body - what the different parts of the body are, their functions and the like. You build up to teaching about things like contraception, penetration and the ins and outs, so to speak. It's like training to be a surgeon - you don't learn how to remove a kidney before you learn where everything is.

    Sex Ed in schools *has* to improve. It's shocking. And this is the start of it. It's trying to make it less of a taboo subject. And if people read the guidelines properly instead of sensationalising them, like the Christian Institute has done, then they would realise it would be an improvement to the current system.

    Agreed. Also, if the material were to actually be reproduced so that people could make their own judgement I suspect it's sensationalised just like all the "teaching homosexuality through maths" bollocks.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I regularly have to deal with reports in schools of girls being *used* by lads who think they are porn stars, of 13 year old girls finding themselves pregnant and thinking it's ok to have unprotected sex because they were on top and they can't get pregnant that way. These are just the things that find their way to my ears because they're child protection related, so God only knows what the school nurses are told.

    These things happen because sex-ed in this nation is shockingly bad so boys and girls instead turn to porn in order to learn.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you don't have a condom, do it up the bum- that's one I heard recently that made me grimace.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Made me wince.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    katralla wrote: »
    If you don't have a condom, do it up the bum

    That can't possibly be sound sexual advice: it doesn't rhyme.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Made me wince.

    Use more lube
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Spit on it?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That can't possibly be sound sexual advice: it doesn't rhyme.

    I believe the actual quote is 'You can't become a Mum, if you do it up the bum', though strictly speaking I believe that this advice only works if you suck the chap's cock clean afterwards
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That can't possibly be sound sexual advice: it doesn't rhyme.

    i either just nominated you for potw or i reported you and you're gonna get banneded.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Whowhere wrote: »
    I regularly have to deal with reports in schools of girls being *used* by lads who think they are porn stars, of 13 year old girls finding themselves pregnant and thinking it's ok to have unprotected sex because they were on top and they can't get pregnant that way. These are just the things that find their way to my ears because they're child protection related, so God only knows what the school nurses are told.

    These things happen because sex-ed in this nation is shockingly bad so boys and girls instead turn to porn in order to learn.

    Loads of girls in my school, who were about 14, were sexually active with men, possibly in to their twenties... They used to pick 'em up after school... Quite a few had to leave because they were pregnant.

    Our sex ed... Or what little we had of it, was shite... Teachers could not control the class (saying that, we weren't allowed to use computers in IT either, as kids were so rowdy and it was some kind of rubbish punishment). I think that if we were taught more openly, we'd have less pregnancies. The same with drugs... Drugs awareness usually came from sanctimonious police officers telling us the dangers and to say 'no'... So naturally, many of us did take drugs (and had a fuckin' good time tbh), but a few ended up messed up and homeless.

    I would be more concerned if my kid's school were upholding the "truths" of the Bible, than if they were being taught about sex honestly.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Surprise surprise... You put 'Christian Institute' in to Wikipedia, you find that they have campaigned against abortion and are anti-gay. :rolleyes:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Erm... the only evidence that a book going into graphic details comes from the very group condemning it. I'd rather see it for myself and make my own judgement.

    If it's anything like the series I have seen there are different levels of book for different age groups but it's part of a series. Those whom are anti-any kind of sex ed in school lump them all together in order to get the emotive reactions you see in the comments attached to the article.

    As for for Christian Institute's claims that they are "committed to upholding the truths of the Bible" - did it mention sex ed in there, I cannot remember. However, we cannot question what is in the good book, because "it's a book and it is good"
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sex Ed in schools *has* to improve. It's shocking. And this is the start of it. It's trying to make it less of a taboo subject. And if people read the guidelines properly instead of sensationalising them, like the Christian Institute has done, then they would realise it would be an improvement to the current system.

    Amen to this.

    I realise it has been some time since I was at school, but we had sex ed at 16. SIXTEEN. By the time they saw fit to teach us about sex, the vast majority had already sought to educate themselves about it, most from very sketchy sources, a fair proportion of the class had already done it and there were one or two in the year that actually missed the lesson cause they were away giving birth :thumb:
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kaff wrote: »
    :heart: the Minch

    One of my favourite songs ever. Especially with the "Tony's Toe" introduction.


    On a more relevant note, I don't remember having any sex ed at all, although that was over 25 years ago I suppose. The only thing I remember is the mechanics of it all taught in biology and seeing a video of a birth...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    One of my favourite songs ever. Especially with the "Tony's Toe" introduction.

    Think mine is 'If I didn't have you' :d

    Anyhoo, I say sex ed, but I went to a Catholic school, so in reality all that happened is that we had a couple of biology lessons where they showed us a illustrated cross section of a penis and did a cursory overview of the sperm meets egg situation, and then we had an RE lesson where they told us not to do it until we were married. Brilliant!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    we had sex ed lessons at primary school. Its no new thing.

    God it was so embarrassing. I couldnt stop giggling
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    My sex ed was rubbish. We were just told about sperm, puberty and periods. Nothing about contraception or anything like that.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I believe the actual quote is 'You can't become a Mum, if you do it up the bum', though strictly speaking I believe that this advice only works if you suck the chap's cock clean afterwards

    You are Mr. Sheen and I claim my £5.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    Loads of girls in my school, who were about 14, were sexually active with men, possibly in to their twenties... They used to pick 'em up after school... Quite a few had to leave because they were pregnant.

    Our sex ed... Or what little we had of it, was shite... Teachers could not control the class (saying that, we weren't allowed to use computers in IT either, as kids were so rowdy and it was some kind of rubbish punishment). I think that if we were taught more openly, we'd have less pregnancies. The same with drugs... Drugs awareness usually came from sanctimonious police officers telling us the dangers and to say 'no'... So naturally, many of us did take drugs (and had a fuckin' good time tbh), but a few ended up messed up and homeless.

    I would be more concerned if my kid's school were upholding the "truths" of the Bible, than if they were being taught about sex honestly.

    Relax, your concerns are unwarranted.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As for for Christian Institute's claims that they are "committed to upholding the truths of the Bible" - did it mention sex ed in there, I cannot remember.

    I think it compels you to educate your children not to become whores and whoremongers.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Melian wrote: »
    My sex ed was rubbish. We were just told about sperm, puberty and periods. Nothing about contraception or anything like that.

    Don't even get me started on sex ed for gay kids.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I had a fantastic Catholic sex education- "right lads, don't". Really informative and useful it was.

    I learned more from Loaded than I did from school. Thankfully I have enlightened parents who did teach me and, when they got too embarrassed, were prepared to buy good books to do the rest.

    I firmly believe that if you teach kids the proper words for things from a young age then a lot of abuse can't happen. If a four-year-old knows what a penis and vagina is it knows that it's uncle or father shouldn't be playing with them and knows not to be embarrassed about telling somoene. Rather than encouraging abuse, knowledge empowers kids to put a stop to abuse earlier. It can't be a dirty secret.
    piccolo wrote:
    Don't even get me started on sex ed for gay kids.

    That's much more difficult to teach, IMHO, as proven by the fact that even the welfare people for LGBTAs at universities struggle with it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thankfully I have enlightened parents who did teach me and, when they got too embarrassed, were prepared to buy good books to do the rest.

    Same here. I was given sex ed also when I was 16. That was pointless.

    I don't ever remember being taught anything about gay sex. (not that I'm gay or that I care) They were more interested in telling us "no sex before marriage".:rolleyes: I didn't even attend a religious school.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That's much more difficult to teach, IMHO, as proven by the fact that even the welfare people for LGBTAs at universities struggle with it.
    I appreciate that, but what the uni welfare services have that schools don't is a willingness to find and provide information when they're asked for it.

    I just don't think it's a big ask to hand out leaflets on seeking support for LGBT issues when they do sex ed. It's a tiny thing that would make a huge difference. The internet is full of misleading information and it's all most people have to rely on (as has been said about all forms of sex above).
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