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Breaking news: New cannabis laws
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They won't enforce it, its just the governemnt trying to keep all the anti-drugs folk onside
So they up the maximum sentence, what matters is the minimum surely? How often do judges ever give the max?
It's a bit of government spin.
No matter what the max. is, the courts will still be viewing it as class. C and will therefore be dishing out lower sentances!
I think the main reason behind this is a human rights issue, in our human rights act we are garanteed "fair and equal treatment"
Now if I was arrested somewhere other than lambeth for the possestion of canabis I would fight the government on this issue and to me I'd have a good case.
This I think would be a huge embaresment for the government.
Also without cannabis cafes I dont see how the sitation is going to be better, the trades still going to be run by criminals and street dealing will continue.
I think the big news of this bill is that more money will be going into treatment and that heroin will be more widely proscribed.
Just my thoughts.
We signed up to an international treaty on drugs on 1971 (I think) in which cocaine, opium, heroin and other drugs including cannabis are banned.
International treatys ALWAYS come above national law so to fully legalise cannabis we would have to pull out of this treaty.
Hmmm, how do you think the other countries would feel about that?
Do you think the UK wants to appear soft of cocaine and heroin?
prescribed heroin will effect dealers in a big big way..takes away a lot of thier power influence and revenue. but hey cannabis can now be carried in small amounts with no arrest looming. the cannabis market is mostly run by decent people who are willing to take a few risks. most of these people want to sell a QUALITY product. most cannabis people are nice family oriented peace loving people. they make a living growing smuggling dealing but in a much politer safer kind of environment than smack heads and gangsters....i fear all that will now change over the next couple of years as gangsters see thier revenue falling on the heroin. they will see the cannabis market as very easy to take over with the police not being realy interested.
the way round this problem is to encourage people to start growing thier own. for themselves and each other. thankfully on my trip to stockport and manchester on saturday and birmingham on sunday i discovered a staggering amount of people now growing quality weed. and to get the point over to the world that your average dope head is actualy against heroin as much as the rest of the sensible world i suggest all of you who want dope fully legalised in the future should clearly tell heroin DEALERS to fuck off out of your faces out of your lives and out of your nieghborhoods. the cannabis campaigners should stand up and now be seen to be anti heroin and crack in a big way. heroin and crack are the big evils.
so come on ..get growing your own and voice your anti heroin dealer feelings loud and clear. they are scum and should be treated as such..believe me , i've been scum.
As for heroin dealers muscling in on the puff situation, I see what you mean and I can follow your argument but I just think that there wont be enough money in it for them.
The proscribing of heroin wont be widespread enough for them to go out of business, what we may well see is more fights as the market shrinks a tiny bit.
Also brown heroin, which is whats on the market in the UK, smokes better than any proscribed pure white pham stuff. This is because of its chemical make up.
So users who smoke but really dont like needles will have a difficult choice. There are a growing number of smokers, the indian sub-continant people for example have a real stigma around needles but smokers are rising.