kind of political, sort of

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My school is a christian C of E school - I am not and never will be remotely religious. THe problem is this : the Christian Union club at school, run by these students who are like all christian and stuff, are holding a religious week in which, basically, they tell people like me and my freinds that we are going to hell etc etc etc. They spend like a whole week doing religious endoctrination etc and i con't stand it.
Is it just me, or do they have absolutely no right to force religion down our necks in such a condescending fashion - its like they are doing this special week to 'save' us and be like mini-jesus for a week. It really isnit fair, or am i being rediculous.
secondly, am i entitled to hold a 'freedom of the induvidual' week or a 'pro-choice' week, because i hae asked and the school have said no - bvecause of lack of funds buit i know for a fact that the Christian week is costing more that £1000!!!
Is it just me, or is this sort of thing plain wrong..all opinions valued, please

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Re: kind of political, sort of

Originally posted by overzealous
My school is a christian C of E school - I am not and never will be remotely religious. THe problem is this : the Christian Union club at school, run by these students who are like all christian and stuff, are holding a religious week in which, basically, they tell people like me and my freinds that we are going to hell etc etc etc. They spend like a whole week doing religious endoctrination etc and i con't stand it.
Is it just me, or do they have absolutely no right to force religion down our necks in such a condescending fashion - its like they are doing this special week to 'save' us and be like mini-jesus for a week. It really isnit fair, or am i being rediculous.
secondly, am i entitled to hold a 'freedom of the induvidual' week or a 'pro-choice' week, because i hae asked and the school have said no - bvecause of lack of funds buit i know for a fact that the Christian week is costing more that £1000!!!
Is it just me, or is this sort of thing plain wrong..all opinions valued, please

Christian school? I take it this school does not get public funds?
If I am correct, you're out of luck. You choose to go there, you're subject to their programs and curriculum.

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Re: Re: kind of political, sort of

Originally posted by Greenhat


Christian school? I take it this school does not get public funds?
If I am correct, you're out of luck. You choose to go there, you're subject to their programs and curriculum.

That, I'm afraid, is the irony. Christian Faith schools receive as much money from the government as any other state school, and their income is often massively supplemented by their church.

I think that if you want a religious school, it should not be funded by the government. Unfortunately, there has never been political will to change this; the Tories fear losing the support of the Anglicans; Liberals and Labour fear losing the support of the non-conformists and Christian Socialists (now there's an oxymoron )

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The government should close down all religious schools, not give them money. When are we going to admit that brainwashing children is an infrigement of their human rights?

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Originally posted by Aladdin
When are we going to admit that brainwashing children is an infrigement of their human rights?

I don't really agree with you there. The way I see it, is that teenagers et al going to these faith schools are autonomous people and I was made to go to a Catholic School, I didn't believe in God, and no amount of going to church on Friday afternoons with the school, or 'preaching' from the teachers about pre marital sex made me agree with their views.

I think brainwashing is quite a strong word to use, I mean, I think kids these days are heavily bombarded with things aimed at them such as fast food, or text message voting or the latest craze. (Rememeber Tamagochi? Loved them! ) and they are more influenced by those sort of things, more so than religion. I could be wrong but that's the impression I get.

At the end of the day, more often than not, it's the parents who will choose which school their kids go to. I had no choice in the matter, maybe other people did, but my mum always said to me if at any time I was unhappy in school, she would take me out and find another one, but whilst I was there, I had to follow their rules and learn what was taught.

I was sent to a religious school because at the time, without having to spend money for a private school, they had the best results.

or do they have absolutely no right to force religion down our necks in such a condescending fashion

Well, it is a faith school at the end of the day! What do you expect? I think it's more of a case of 'When in Rome....' I mean if you worked at Enron, do you really think they would let you have a 'Save the environment, don't drive to work day?' (or something like that!)

You choose to go there, you're subject to their programs and curriculum.

*hit the nail on the head*:)

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Sorry Greenhat, but over here the State and the Church (Church of England) are intertwined. So state funding of these schools still exists. Sick, isn't it?

The monarch must swear to uphold the faith (not any faith you'll note, just C of E), and it is still illegal for a catholic to become our monarch...

Enlightened times eh?

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Change schools if you think its that terrible.

I went to a CofE school, forced to go to sunday school every week and do all manner of other religious stuff....I wasnt brainwashed and im agnostic now....You obviously arent a religious person so who fucking cares if they do religious stuff. Nobody can force you to believe anything you dont want to.

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Originally posted by Man Of Kent
Sorry Greenhat, but over here the State and the Church (Church of England) are intertwined.

However, as a point of information, although Congress is constitutionally forbidden to establish a state religion, you are quite likely to see the Stars and Stripes inside an American church, whereas it would be very much out of the ordinary to see the Union Flag in a British church.

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Originally posted by MacKenZie


However, as a point of information, although Congress is constitutionally forbidden to establish a state religion, you are quite likely to see the Stars and Stripes inside an American church, whereas it would be very much out of the ordinary to see the Union Flag in a British church.

The three churches I'm familiar with the interiors of (although I'm not a regular church goer) all hang Union Flags inside. Perhaps it just varies from church to church.