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Bye Bye Gordon
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The men in white coats will be on their way to Downing Street to pick him up soon enough.
Well David Miliband has got to be a frontrunner. Then he and Clegg can form a media-friendly, cool and trendy, oh so handsome coalition
So, that rules out Clegg and Cameron too then
Weren't they leaders of their parties or did I miss something we knew what we were getting, whether we liked it or not ... though frankly the leader of third place party becoming PM is almost as bad.
I think its a terrible policy and honestly if I'd know the Tories were going as far as offering a referendum I think I'd have voted differently or spoilt my ballot paper
It'll have to be a stake through the heart next time...
Yeah, but no-one got enough votes to be form a Govt. Any agreement now leads to us having unelected PM.
As you say in your other post, any agreements being made in those closed rooms, without input from the electorate, will lead to policies which none of us voted for. Either the Tories will cave and give a referendum (which most Tories oppose) or they won't (which most LibDem will oppose)...
The only real solution here, which fits the mandate from cvoters is minority Tory Govt and that will lead to an autumn election.
Broon (or should that be Lord Mandelsnake?) is using the same strategy here. He knows just as well as everyone else that the Labour Party has very little real talent in it. The fact they're saying that banana-waving twat David Milibland is the best thing since sliced bread shows how low their stock is.
Politically, he was bad. It's just that his lack of charisma didn't help him either.
But as a human being, I agree. He's not a bad person.
I think if you disregard the seats for just-one-moment, and look at the number of voters for each coalition:
Con 10,683,787
Lab 8,604,358
Lib 6,827,938
Other 3.5m
Which would give:
Con-Lib gov 17.5m vs 12.1m opposition
Lab-Lib gov 15.4m vs 14.2m opposition (though the SNP and other nationalist parties are more likely to vote with lab-lib)
Either in terms of NUMBERS are workable, its just the fucked up electoral system that's broke it. I think the clear mandate of the people is as the SNP says - a progressive government. Far more people voted for left wing parties than for right wing parties, it's just the case that there is only one mainstream centre-right party.
That's why the tories don't want AV, because labour will choose lib as their second vote, and lib will choose labour. Conservatives will have a strong opposition - lets see them block electoral reform, blame it on lib/lab, call for an election and hope they win a majority to keep the status quo for another 100 years.
As for unelected PMs, it's not a presidential system, Winston Churchill wasn't elected PM in WW2 but nobody moans about that.
Hmm, only if someone declares war on us. Then it could be an advantage having a complete bastard in charge. Although there's always the risk he'd change sides half way through.
I think Brown was a better Chancellor than he was a PM. His premiership was dogged by bad decisions even so far back as to hold that reception for Maggie Thatcher. I mean, WTF was THAT all about?
Bit of a tragic figure - he desperately wanted the job, but once he got it he was let down by his own flaws. There was lack of charisma, but that was less important than his indecisiveness and inability to grip issues outside his own knowledge base. Hopefully once he's out he won't do a Heath and become an embittered figure, but Callaghan or Major and retire gracefully.
Of course no person who play's Rugby can be entirely bad...;)
To be honest I'm not sure that's true - there's plenty of evidence from the London elections between Boris and Ken that Labour voters did pick Boris as there second preference and vice versa. And lots of the swing in this election was Labour voters last time moving to Conservative
It's only a very small proportion of activists who hate the Tories/Labour.
She was an ex-PM, so its not a big surprise that current PMs would invite her. When she was PM she several times hosted Wilson and Callaghan. cameron will probably host Blair and Brown at some time.
Also I know some people want her airbrushed from history, but she gained more votes than Blair, so she wasn't unpopular - plenty of people were voting for her.
I also say he wasn't that good a chancellor. In 1997 we had the best position in Europe on pensions, we no longer do. his selling of the gold reserves lost us more than the ERM and even the one good decision to keep us out of the Euro was based on political rather than economic calculations