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Is it just all about condoms?
**helen**
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Our latest ranter Rachel is fed up of repetitive messages from teachers, adverts and nurses which just tell young people to use condoms and all will be well. How does her experience compare with yours?
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the bit i think sums it up is what good old nursie said
better safe than sorry!
I also agree with the love and sex thing. Whenever I go to the family planning clinic to get more pills, i always feel like the nurses there are judging you, and you're just going to sleep with any guy you meet. The first time i went she almost rammed a pack of condoms down my throat as tho she didnt trust me to use them! (Just like Rachel's friend)
I suppose the idea of freedom, women's liberation, kids growing up too fast, etc. has contributed to the downfall of the traditional idea of love before sex. Now I cant say i'm a particulary devoted supportee of this, but i can see where she is coming from.
I trust my partner. We have both been checked for STDs and although I am on the POP we still use condoms because we like to be double safe. Just because we aren't married and we have sex doesn't mean we're being unsafe and it doesn't mean there isn't love. We enjoy our intimacy, we enjoy the closeness, we enjoy sex but we take precautions.
Each to their own, I guess.
It might be important to discuss relationships in relation to sex education, as well as talking about sex and love, however at the same time you don't want to alienate young people by trying to bang in the message that you should only have sex in a loving, stable relationship full stop, because that isn't a realistic reflection of what people do. And I think the rates of STDs and unwanted or unplanned pregnancies in young people does reflect the need to have the condom message hammered home, because it obviously is not getting through to many and that is an issue that needs to be addressed.
Mind you, it doesn't stop Rachel from being right. Current government policy does seem to be about encouraging under-age sex rather than stopping it in its tracks. Proof? A few years ago, the government spent a load of dosh on areas on sex education programmes in areas of the country where teenage pregnancy was at its worst. Result? Teenage pregnancies actually went UP in those areas. The only thing this shows us is that the state should have nothing to do with what happens in our bedrooms.
Yes, sex education needs to be a hell of a lot better than it is. Heck, I remember my sex education. I was 14 years old and it was given to us by a fifty-something year-old PE teacher. It was hard to tell who was more embarrassed to attend the lessons - her, or the pupils. The lessons in question also lasted only 30 minutes. By the time everyone had got into the class and quieted down, it was effectively 25 minutes - with about two days per year devoted specially to sex education lessons which everyone forgot about within hours.
Which is why I would give a load of dosh to organisations such as, ooh I don't know, Youthnet to go round the country educating the nation's children and teenagers about sex. TheSite.org itself does contain some articles which I disagree with, but they are generally very sound. If you put charities and people in place who know about the subject, sex education in this country could be turned around virtually overnight.
As for the school nurse who told the Christian girl that her views about sex were "unrealistic", she deserves to be sacked.
Speak for yourself, thinking of Magaret Thatcher stops me cumming too early everytime
POTW
for someone who complains about being patronised...
also the message isnt getting through properly. some people are terrified of sex because the propaganda is that its an act that will get you diseased and some people just dont listen or "know im supposed to.. but you know, i was drunk" or something.
I dunno, i don't have a lot of sex, ask stargalaxy
Agreed
Exactly what I thought.
The two points she very clumsily misses are:
1) The safe sex thing, whilst far from being a complete success, is at least pragmatic enought to realise that people are going to do it, and thus if they are, they should at least use protection.
2) The classroom is not the environment for education about relationships. If you want to learn about sperms fertilizing eggs and zygotes and all that guff, go to a biology lesson. If you want to learn about sex in the context of a loving relationships, ask your parents. However, far too many 'parents' are only too happy to abdicate responsibility in favour of blaming the teachers because they didn't teach their mewling spawn about sex in its proper context. I guess it's easier to blame someone else for your own mistakes than admit that you're at fault.
Now for the next one...
Joe is a 20-something polyglot banker from London. When not furiously masturbating, he hates meeting new people, old people and anyone in between. When not explaining to people how he is not responsible for the credit crisis, he can often be found hiding in Regents Park with a pair of binoculars.
remember the 80s when you couldn't switch on the TV or radio
with out there been an ad or or a public information film telling you to get
a condom before you had sex . mates adverts Durex adverts and information films about HIV and AIDS people are still dyeing of ignorance use a condom
blob a knob week:yippe:
excuse me...i am on heavy dose opiate painkillers...i'll say anything!
It would be nice to meet one
Me either, Im with vodafone.
Yes, but I cant keep you can I :chin:
I think what you describe is better than my condition though.