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before and after the 10p tax band
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I'm unsure what exactly happened. now as far as I was given to understand before you were not taxed for the first 5000 £ you earnt and from 5000 to 11000 you paid 10 % tax, so with the new law what has happened ? do we still have the first 5000 tax free or is the whole 11000 range set at 20 % tax ?
I'm just trying to figure how the gov rekon we can be compensated by 120 £ and some rekon the damage is 250. I'm paying 20 % tax on all I earn and in that case i loose about 1500 £ a year (compared to the rates i staed above), is there something screwy somewhere ?
I worked for one month at xmas and paid no tax at all
Regards
Simon
I'm just trying to figure how the gov rekon we can be compensated by 120 £ and some rekon the damage is 250. I'm paying 20 % tax on all I earn and in that case i loose about 1500 £ a year (compared to the rates i staed above), is there something screwy somewhere ?
I worked for one month at xmas and paid no tax at all
Regards
Simon
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Incidentally, these tax changes aren't coming in until September, when you should get your £60 back from the past 6 months, and then you'll be taxed £10 less a month for the rest of the tax year.
Now its currently 5400, get taxed 20% after that
with the tax allowance going up in september
when you get tax free on your first 5.4k, you dont just earn that amount and then start paying tax, its decided up into about £100 a week or something, and you pay 20% onanything over that, though if some weeks you dont work, it means you get taxed a bit less when you earn over that £250
http://www.listentotaxman.com/
so while the gov endorses agencies its quite all right for the agency to totaly turn a blind eye on what we are entitled to I now have to chase up 2 agencies and get it sorted i wonder how many others out there are loosing out because its a long winded thing and gets a bit complicated when theorectically you could work every half day of the week for a different agency. The last time I worked directly for an employer he saw to it that i was taxed correctly (and its only really because of this I wondered why all of a suden i was being clobered).
I even phoned the last agency up and aked a clarification of what was being deducted from my wages and even then it escaped him that i was being screwed but then he didn't even send me a payslip !
FUCK agencies fuck them all thats all they do to us ! now its MY mess to clear up ! I think I'll go and bill the agency for my time I'm sure they'd do the same if i slipped up !
oh and its very nice to get taxed FIRST and then have NI deducted so basically we pay 20 % more NI than we think !
20% is the correct amount of tax
you need to make sure you are not on the BR tax code
yes I'm on just that !
what I,m saying is I get 204 £ first I get taxed for it then 10 £ is taken in NI si I paid 2 £ tax on money i was not really given anyhow, why not deduct the 10 £ and then tax me ? of course 8 £ a month for all the people in england (and I guess the more you earn the more you pay in NI) thats a good little money spinner
Only after P60s are given out, which is around April.
if the law for everyone is 5400 £ allowance all they have to do is give it right ? its my bank i need to tell if I'm working or not so that thety can calculate wether or not i pay tax on interest the stupid flipping employer (the angency) knows dam well that I'm working and what they pay me, like i said I spotted the problem if it was up to them I'd be paying twice the tax for ever more
yea I know i'll not see the money for a bit typical I think I should charge interest and for the time it takes to sort it out ! they are all so helpful to get you into the job and then thats that they couldn't care a hooping who after that I'd probably get more info out of the jon centre if anyone still uses it to find workers
If you had intrest paid gross of tax before you need to tell them so you can interest paid after tax is dedected (apart from ISA/Tessa products and the like).
Its your money and your pay, quit wingeing and get your tax sorted, it wont always sort itself out on its own.
they ask you to tell them wether or not you work so that if you don't they say aha ! you don't pay tax then please fill out "this" form its a pity other organisations are not so helpful !
yea I've got so sort it out all I'm saying is as far as i know we all get the same 5400 £ allowance free of tax so why do we all have to make specific arrangements ? why can't it just be automatic ? I wasn't taxed for 4 weeks work over xmas but i think thats because my employer (I worked directly for) was commited to his staff and ensured that everything was set out right, he said to me don't worry you won't have to pay tax etc.
Because when you start a job they don't know how much tax you've paid previously or if it's your only job and so on. It's down to you to give employers that information when you start a job, otherwise it takes tax offices tracking down your tax records for the year and sorting it out after a while. Thats life...if you don't have the paper work to prove things when you start a job or fill in the paper work you've only got yourself to blame and so quit complaining!
As for the amount of tax you're paying it doesn't sound that far out. You should be paying about £17 tax and £11 NI each week on your wage.
Makes things a lot easier for the company and they don't ahve to go hunting around either for people.
from what I remember I did fill out forms with them for tax purposes but then its to much to ask that a) another agency branch gets all that info b) that they even care to put it all through correctly. then of course as i had to register twice with the same agency I forget now if i filled them out a second time.
Agencies are used from what I understand because its more difficult to sack someone but if they are with an agency its agreed that its on a day to day basis (officialy) in my case the employer wants to try me out before taking me on. It seems that people with common sense are few and far between thats all it takes to do my job
We're a bright bunch in the City :thumb:
and things will got up by 1 and 2 p infact by as much as 4p as it would be rounded to the nearest 5p, and just to jump on the ban wagon i bet it would be by 10p as the retailer will clain he wa not charged 41p but 45 and hist price is normaly 51 but now its gotta be 60 4p for the suppliers increase 4p for his own + round it up again to the nearest 5p
They all add up, I have a big jar and every month or so take it to the bank and get a lovely £10 note for it. If you don't want your coppers I'll have them, it'll get me a nice takeaway.
If they were abolished it would be six and two threes. In Australia, which doesn't have one and two cent coins, you don't get change if you buy something for $9.99, so it costs a tenner, and this adds up over a year. But equally, you can use it in your favour too, e.g. instead of putting $10 petrol in your car, you put $10.04 and still only pay $10.
I don't know why you're swearing about your employer, Simon, the delay will be on the part of HMRC who are often slothful at getting tax coding notices out. I'm still on a BR because of the dumb fucks. For your reference I would expect your tax to be about £18pw on a £200pw wage. You don't get overpaid NI contributions refunded.
This is for a £200 a week wage. Excuse the formatting:
Wage Summary Weekly
Gross Pay 100% £200.00
Tax free Allowances 52% £104.52
Total taxable 48% £95.48
Tax paid 10% £19.10
National Insurance 5% £10.45
Total Deductions 15% £29.55
Net Wage 85% £170.45
I do find it funny how immigrants, the tax man, employers, agencies, the world, every man and his dog seems to be against Simon in pretty much all of his treads and posts...?
from the calculations above I am paying the right NI just wrong tax. I'm swearing about my employer because they just sit there and ignore it I had to register twice with this particular agency just because they fancied it so I think they changed their contract but they said it was because i hadn't worked for them for 6 months (which i had) so they did not ask me for tax info and didn't give a hang over it if I'm working full time for them what do they think my tax situation is ? I filled out the information on the first registration but am unsure about the second. theyt have not been helpful at all i left a message on saturday and they could have rung me up to say they couldn't do a p60 (or 46 I'm lost on this) form but needed my last P45 (which that other bum of an agency has not sent me yet) so they sat on their ases to let me come steaming over after work incase they shut becore I got there just to say "oh we need a P45" jesus christ what the fuck was the matter with ringing me to tell me that and if i didn't turn up who gives a fuck they got their cut thats all they care for !