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It's all the fat people's fault, apparently. All of it.

Obese blamed for the world's ills

Obese people are contributing to the world food crisis and climate change, experts say.

The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine calculated the obese consume 18% more calories than average.

They are also responsible for using more fuel, which has an environmental impact and drives up food prices as transport and agriculture both use oil.

The result is that the poor struggle to afford food and greenhouse gas emissions rise, the Lancet reported.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7404268.stm



I hereby issue an unreserved apology to the drivers of gas guzzler cars, the aviation industry, free marketeers, capitalism and the oil corporations, amongst others. It seems they were not the ones to blame for the world's ills after all.

:rolleyes: but also :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its stating the bloody obvious isnt it? Fat people eat more calories than thin people, surely that's apparent.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah of course it is...

    Far easier to blame obese people obviously. Never mind that not all obese people are so out of choice, or that food wastage by industrialised nations surely presents a far bigger problem than obese people eating more food than others, etc etc.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Personally I think all the blame lies with those marathon runners who end up inhaling and exhaling way too much, contributing to all that nasty CO2 :yes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote: »
    Yeah of course it is...

    Far easier to blame obese people obviously. Never mind that not all obese people are so out of choice, or that food wastage by industrialised nations surely presents a far bigger problem than obese people eating more food than others, etc etc.

    I think the food wastage from farms is a bigger shame than the amounts households throw out. Farms dispose of about 20-25% of what they produce largely because we want exactly uniform looking fruit, veg and meat.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There's not a person in this country that has any sort of right to point the finger at anyone else (well, homeless people perhaps). Everyone buys unnecessary things manufactured half way around the globe. Everyone throws perfectly good things out because they're not the latest version of whatever they happen to be. Blaming obese people makes about as much sense as blaming bodybuilders or rugby players, both of whom eat far more than average in terms of calories.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think the type of foods thin people included is a more logical factor.

    eg food packaging, where it's made and the rest of it
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think the type of foods thin people included is a more logical factor.

    eg food packaging, where it's made and the rest of it

    ye waaa?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's what you buy, not how much you buy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's what you buy, not how much you buy.

    So it's the fatties buying ready meals whilst us healthy people grow our own veg :mad:





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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I wonder about the purpose of publishing such research, as these experts clearly point out the obvious and logical relation between obesity and fuel consumption/food consumption. Yes, of course obese people eats more, and since their weight is higher than average, they will of course add more weight to aircrafts, cars and other means of transportation.

    If these experts could start to focus on developing solutions to environmental problems instead of futile attempts of finding just another scapegoat, we'd probably already have solved some of these issues.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blaming obese people makes about as much sense as blaming bodybuilders or rugby players, both of whom eat far more than average in terms of calories.

    I'm amazed they haven't blamed the Chinese olympic powerlifting team http://www.flickr.com/photos/dehwang/159761459/
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    On a good note though, with fuel prices rising and food shortages, we shall all be losing some weight :D
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    The fact that obese people cause more damage to our enviroment then healthier people is hardly ground breaking stuff.

    There are far biiger issues than how much a person weiughs though.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Coming up next week - a report from the Bush administration reveals exclusively that Osama Bin Laden is responsible for current world food problems, climate change, and Gordon Brown's haircut.

    Seriously, doesn't the London School of Stating The Completely Fucking Obvious have nothing better to do than this?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There's not a person in this country that has any sort of right to point the finger at anyone else .

    You could apply this statement to almost anything and it would be true. I don't like it.
    Wouldn't it just be easier if we all admitted we're partly responsible, tried to do what we could and made it clear that businesses and the government should do the same? (even though they won't)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This just looks like another excuse to pass the blame and attempt to live guilt free.

    What is classified as 'obese'?

    Also... Some people can consume loads of crap and still stay thin whether they exercise or not. Surely an athelete, or somebody who does heavy exercise or training has to consume a lot of calories too.

    It also depends on what foods you eat. The meat and dairy industry is a huge polluter and contributer to climate change and highly processed food has a far bigger impact than locally grown whole foods.

    As for transport, they might have a point. However at the same time, it's known that obesity is more frequent within people who live in poverty, so maybe they are less likely to be able to afford a car, or fly around the world several times a year for a holiday.

    I think the study is a bit extreme to be honest. Obviously I've only read the report, but there are far more factors involved... Calculating an environmental impact is hugely complex. An obese person who consumes a lot of calories, but sources their diet from a local farm is having a far lower impact than somebody who consumes the same calories and isn't obese, but their diet is sourced from all over the place.

    ect ect
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh yeah, somebody spoke to me about this the other day. What a load of crap. I honestly don't know how crap like this can even get published, grr.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Namaste wrote: »
    This just looks like another excuse to pass the blame and attempt to live guilt free.

    Agree and disagree. It just feels like a bit like someone stating the bleedin' obvious.
    What is classified as 'obese'?

    There is a clear measure for what is obese and what isn't. The problem is it not fantastically useful as it'll quite happily class a professional rugby player as obese, for example.
    Also... Some people can consume loads of crap and still stay thin whether they exercise or not. Surely an athelete, or somebody who does heavy exercise or training has to consume a lot of calories too.

    Eating dick-loads and staying thin is a bit of an over-exaggerated fact. People do have faster metabolisms, but it very rarely is accountable for more than a few pounds. The equation for how much you weigh has always been, at its core, very simple.
    It also depends on what foods you eat. The meat and dairy industry is a huge polluter and contributer to climate change and highly processed food has a far bigger impact than locally grown whole foods.

    As for transport, they might have a point. However at the same time, it's known that obesity is more frequent within people who live in poverty, so maybe they are less likely to be able to afford a car, or fly around the world several times a year for a holiday.

    I think the study is a bit extreme to be honest. Obviously I've only read the report, but there are far more factors involved... Calculating an environmental impact is hugely complex. An obese person who consumes a lot of calories, but sources their diet from a local farm is having a far lower impact than somebody who consumes the same calories and isn't obese, but their diet is sourced from all over the place.

    ect ect

    Agree. The whole thing is a lot more complex and nuanced than "fat people eat loads = the world is bad". I'm not sure how helpful this report is - other than perhaps pointing out one thing in a myriad of things that would be beneficial to change.
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