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"Since when is sexual assault funny?"
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ditto
edit: have to add thinking about it, when you're at a performance, sometimes you don't know what's part of the performance and what's not... it makes it all the easier for them to get away with it, I guess
That's completely right but if you think about it we don't know whether she was happy or unhappy for it happen..
Have to say I'm not in anyway endeared to Jonny Vegas on the whole and am disgusted at the article. BUT, as Jim V says, reading from the comments other people in the audience do seem to have a different perspective of the events, and so as I wasn't there... I don't know if I can make a definitive judgement that sexual assault did take place. I mean, I know nothing of drama and the sort, but there was the chance it was all elaborately planned, that the girl was actually working with Vegas? I doubt it, but again, we weren't there and don't know the facts *shrug*
edit: here's a quote that sums it up I think
Though I would argue that the 'comedy' is in extremely poor taste and that alone would be enough to put me off.
Doing what he did on stage is probably the nearest the ugly pig ever got to a woman ...without having to pay that is.
Bit more food for thought. Allegedly from one of the people absolutely closest. Looking more like a bit of journalistic spin, to be honest. But again, we weren't there. It's just the conclusions the author seems to jump to, bordering on libel / slander.
But on the other hand, I find it hard to believe that someone could really do this in front of a room crawling with people, and have none of them (not to mention the supposed victim) try to stop him.
if it's true what happened, it should be investigated, and those people there who lauhed should be prosecuted for crap taste in humour
in principal and humour, unless she was planted in the audience, there's a difference between talking dirty about someone and performing acts like that on someone who can't do much
a) He isn't even funny.
b) He's a loathsome character anyway.
c) He now apparently uses his fame to abuse women onstage in the name of a "comedy show".
This is why, he should be shot.
Seriously though, good point - why is it not in the news ffs? This is nearly rape. Only the Guardian cover it? I am supprise the Daily Nazi didn't jump at this.
But that's what stand ups about pretty much
From what I read last night, the 'joke' was about him self loathing. Whilst saying he could have any woman in the house, he looks ugly and has no sex charm whatsoever. He attempts to woo this girl with very crap and crude and vulgar lines etc. - the humour is laughing at the patheticness of Vegas' character, rather than the alleged sexual assault or whatever.
edit: just looking at the prominent news stories again and the lack of journalism is just shocking. One blog says factually he raped a girl on stage, the mirror opens it's story with "Disgusted fans of comic Johnny Vegas stormed out of a show after he allegedly molested a girl on stage.", when in fact as for actual reporting there is none. One anecdote from the perspective of one guardian journalist does not a story make.
Don't be silly. The Daily Nazi (which could be one of several) would never admit that a girl who didn't literally push him off could be a victim of sexual assault. In fact the Daily Nazi would probably use the fact that she's wearing a skirt as evidence that she was asking for it.
That does seem to be his style of humour in most of his material. He'll go into a rant about how pathetic he is, and then when the audience laughs at him, he'll (sometimes aggressively) try to prove them wrong or lash out at a particular audience member. I've seen clips of him arm wrestling an audience member, for example. But I've never seen Vegas do a bit of comedy that was at anyone else's expense than his own. But he's often bordering on the line of what is acceptable. He's on Jonathan Ross next week, but I doubt it'll get a mention.
Point taken.
It was probably the stupid slags fault after all, she let herself be carried up on stage.
:rolleyes:
Political correctness isn't always my hobby-horse. Vegas's behaviour, however, was just plain repulsive. If he had acted like this off stage, he would have been arrested. So I don't understand why it's acceptable behaviour on stage. (I am of course assuming that the girl was genuinely a member of the audience, and had no idea what was coming)
what about if he put his penis in her mouth whilst she was held down?
would it be part of the act still, from what i heard she was being held down whilst he was inappropiately
yes there's a fine line but i think it was crossed in this case, talking about someone degradely is perfectly acepatble in stand up but doing stuff to them physically?
Now this is what I've been going on about. You're making a personal attack yourself. If he were 'handsome' would you like him more?
Not that I am a fan myself. I think the main thing is that I just don't understand him, why he chooses to live the way he does and everything.
I suppose that's why I don't understand him, the way he chooses to be such a scapegoat. He chooses to live an unhealthy lifestyle. He chooses to be an idiot. But I think maybe he is hoping that the audience won't laugh at him, and maybe he gets angry when it does happen.
I always thought he was quite popular though actually, obviously this incident will change that.
It's nothing to do with whether he's handsome or not, it's the pathetic-ness, drunkness etc. of his Vegas character that is the whole act. The character (not his real name, btw) is supposed to be ugly, disgusting etc. so people laugh at him. Nobody ever had issues saying the two aunties in cinderella are ugly.
Yeah, I guess so. That is what I mean about him really, he chooses to be scapegoated. That's why I find him annoying.
I was aware that Johnny Vegas is actually his stage name. Real name is Michael Pennington.
I always thought being an alcoholic/drug addict was regarded as cool in the media though? Rock stars for example.