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Chavez bans The Simpsons

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080409/tod-uk-venezuela-simpsons-d987f7f.html

This man is becoming more and more deluded by the day. :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    He hasnt banned them, just removed them from morning TV.

    Its the fact that he gives 8 hour speeches which is the main issue.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think it's funny he's replaced it with Baywatch, lol.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote: »
    He hasnt banned them, just removed them from morning TV.

    Its the fact that he gives 8 hour speeches which is the main issue.
    Whowhere wrote: »
    I think it's funny he's replaced it with Baywatch, lol.

    Which means more kids and less men can attend his speeches :lol:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    StrubbleS wrote: »
    Which means more kids and less men can attend his speeches :lol:
    :lol:
    A lot of women like both too so even less people.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    budda wrote: »
    Its the fact that he gives 8 hour speeches which is the main issue.

    It's the fact there the most popular thing on television which worries me - fuck I'm interested in politics but I don't think I could sit through eight hours by any politician (or anybody else)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Forgive me if I missed something in the story, but what connection exactly does Chavez have to do with the decision? He isn't mentioned, and as far as I can see, it was made by the broadcasting regulator.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That's just me being a cynic Carlito. As far as I'm concerned Chavez controls everything there.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aladdin wrote: »
    That's just me being a cynic Carlito. As far as I'm concerned Chavez controls everything there.

    Thats what worries me. You see this stuff posted all over the net: a minor (perhaps silly) decision made by somebody in Venezuela, and its attributed to Chavez without any evidence or even suggestion of a connection in the original story. No one questions it, either because they don't care or don't like Chavez, and its another notch for "Chavez is a Hitler-Clown" for whoever is reading...then, next time they see a similar story, they are willing to accept it at face value because it reinforces their preconception, *repeat until discredited and overthrown.*

    I'm not a particular fan of Chavez (although I do admire much of what he has done), but the amount of grey and black propaganda spouted against him is enough for me to look at any story or opinion piece about him with extreme skepticism...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    carlito wrote: »
    Thats what worries me. You see this stuff posted all over the net: a minor (perhaps silly) decision made by somebody in Venezuela, and its attributed to Chavez without any evidence or even suggestion of a connection in the original story. No one questions it, either because they don't care or don't like Chavez, and its another notch for "Chavez is a Hitler-Clown" for whoever is reading...then, next time they see a similar story, they are willing to accept it at face value because it reinforces their preconception, *repeat until discredited and overthrown.*

    I'm not a particular fan of Chavez (although I do admire much of what he has done), but the amount of grey and black propaganda spouted against him is enough for me to look at any story or opinion piece about him with extreme scepticism...

    true - but then the same is often true for Bush has done this or Brown has done that, when you look at the story it turns out that they have done no such thing and it's been done by an Government official (and probably the first Bush or Brown knew was when they read it in the morning paper).

    (and to be fair the Yahoo and the BBC don't suggest it was Chavez - in the fact the person who does is probably one of the most left-wing on the board so I'm not sure we're starting to see a media conspiracy)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    maybe he could be cunning and incorperate his speeches into simpsons episodes.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    true - but then the same is often true for Bush has done this or Brown has done that, when you look at the story it turns out that they have done no such thing and it's been done by an Government official (and probably the first Bush or Brown knew was when they read it in the morning paper).

    (and to be fair the Yahoo and the BBC don't suggest it was Chavez - in the fact the person who does is probably one of the most left-wing on the board so I'm not sure we're starting to see a media conspiracy)

    Agree, and I apply the same standard to most media reporting of top politicians' supposed decisions/actions. I think the difference here is that there isn't really any (sensible) suggestion that Brown is some kind of omnipotent dictator of the UK, although sensible people do sometimes suggest as much about Bush in the US. The difference with Chavez is that he does appear to be a leader with authoritarian tendencies, he is on a continent with a recent history of such leaders, and is usually protrayed as such. As you say, even lefties like Aladdin hold the view. For me, thats all the more reason to actually look at these stories/attacks/slurs with skepticism and objectivity rather than just assume the worst every time.

    Constant stories like this in the media may not represent a "conspiracy" but they do indicate a clear agenda. I mean, is this one even newsworthy? A broadcasting regulator in a far off country decides to move a TV show from the morning to the evening because it deems it unsuitable for kids. But by giving an insignifcant decision like this such prominence the suggestion is clear; and lo and behold people all over the internet are posting it as further evidence that Chavez is off his rocker and on a personal political crusade known only to himself.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    carlito wrote: »
    Agree, and I apply the same standard to most media reporting of top politicians' supposed decisions/actions. I think the difference here is that there isn't really any (sensible) suggestion that Brown is some kind of omnipotent dictator of the UK, although sensible people do sometimes suggest as much about Bush in the US. The difference with Chavez is that he does appear to be a leader with authoritarian tendencies, he is on a continent with a recent history of such leaders, and is usually protrayed as such. As you say, even lefties like Aladdin hold the view. For me, thats all the more reason to actually look at these stories/attacks/slurs with skepticism and objectivity rather than just assume the worst every time.

    Constant stories like this in the media may not represent a "conspiracy" but they do indicate a clear agenda. I mean, is this one even newsworthy? A broadcasting regulator in a far off country decides to move a TV show from the morning to the evening because it deems it unsuitable for kids. But by giving an insignifcant decision like this such prominence the suggestion is clear; and lo and behold people all over the internet are posting it as further evidence that Chavez is off his rocker and on a personal political crusade known only to himself.

    I think I agree, to an extent, though the agenda seems to me along the lines of Clive James et al 'Aren't foreigners funny?' type reporting.

    Ignore the fact its in Venuezla and the Chavez connection and there is something inheriently amusing about taking off a satire because it's not suitable for children and replacing it with a programme full of skantily clad lovelies pouting over swimsuited hunks
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It's the fact there the most popular thing on television which worries me - fuck I'm interested in politics but I don't think I could sit through eight hours by any politician (or anybody else)
    Imagine if the British nation had to watch a 8-hour speech by Gordon Brown in the morning. GPs would be flooded by people needing anti-depressants...

    As for Chavez, he's a moron, and a dangerous one at that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote: »
    As for Chavez, he's a moron, and a dangerous one at that.
    Egotistical couragous cunning and far from stupid.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Egotistical couragous cunning and far from stupid.
    Yes, but we're not talking about me here, we're talking about Chavez. :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    stargalaxy wrote: »
    Yes, but we're not talking about me here, we're talking about Chavez. :p

    That was unexpected and gave me a warm ...:) thankyou!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In the list of leaders which worry me Chavez isn't top of the pile. yes, he fucking up the economy, yes, he's egotisitcal and a populist, with little tolerace for those who don't agree with his vision and yes, he stokes up regional tension for his own ends.

    But he's all mouth and no trousers, and everyone knows it (including Bush, who's probably has no more intent of invading Venuezla than he has off bombing the Isle of Wight). He's not a threat to any other country and despite big talk he knows he more dependent on the US paying for his oil than they are on buying it. if he stopped Venuezla would be bankrupt in a few days, the US would have to put a few cents on the price of petrol.

    I suspect he'll do a Mugabe in later years, and keep the appearances of a democratic state whilst imprisoning and attacking the opposition. but he hasn't yet and so he should be treated as a democratic leader - probably not one of the nicer one's, but he's no Castro or Pinochet

    (Though personally I think he should still be doing hard labour for trying to overthrow a democratic government by force, but he isn't and so we have to live with the vagaries of the Venuzelean judicial system).
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In the list of leaders which worry me Chavez isn't top of the pile. yes, he fucking up the economy, yes, he's egotisitcal and a populist, with little tolerace for those who don't agree with his vision and yes, he stokes up regional tension for his own ends.

    But he's all mouth and no trousers, and everyone knows it (including Bush, who's probably has no more intent of invading Venuezla than he has off bombing the Isle of Wight). He's not a threat to any other country and despite big talk he knows he more dependent on the US paying for his oil than they are on buying it. if he stopped Venuezla would be bankrupt in a few days, the US would have to put a few cents on the price of petrol.

    I suspect he'll do a Mugabe in later years, and keep the appearances of a democratic state whilst imprisoning and attacking the opposition. but he hasn't yet and so he should be treated as a democratic leader - probably not one of the nicer one's, but he's no Castro or Pinochet

    (Though personally I think he should still be doing hard labour for trying to overthrow a democratic government by force, but he isn't and so we have to live with the vagaries of the Venuzelean judicial system).

    You think that plays well with the South/Central/Latin Americans Flashman?

    Or why country after country in that continent have consistently elected leftist leaders when permitted, despite coups, death squads, assassinations, etc?

    Chavez isn't a single renegade over there, he is a symptom of a much larger and more sophisticated movement. That Chavez is a bumbling fool adds to the publicity that fuels his ego and motivation.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Whowhere wrote: »
    I think it's funny he's replaced it with Baywatch, lol.

    I'm watching a repeat of Baywatch on UKTV Gold at the moment, I'd forgotten how blatently it was just for staring at flesh.
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    budda wrote: »
    He hasnt banned them, just removed them from morning TV.

    Its the fact that he gives 8 hour speeches which is the main issue.

    I think all world leaders should give massive rambling ranting speeches.

    I bet Bush couldn't think up enough material for 10 minutes, and Gordon would just waffle about slippers and smoking jackets or something.
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