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Should fantasising be a crime punishable by jail?
BillieTheBot
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Yes, say the government. No, says the Appeals Court.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7242724.stm
I find it extremely worrying that in this country having certain thoughts and beliefs, even when in private, are now seen as criminal offences.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7242724.stm
I find it extremely worrying that in this country having certain thoughts and beliefs, even when in private, are now seen as criminal offences.
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Depends doesn't it. The police and the government argued that they weren't fantasies, but the beginnings of a terrorist plot.
The lads argued that it was a bit of harmless fun.
The 1st judge belived the authorities, the 2nd judge believed the defendants. Let's just hope it was a harmless fantasy, and that we don't ever see their faces plastered on TV again.
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Matt, I don't think that is relevant to this thread. Please try and leave the analogy out of it and STAY ON TOPIC. We aren't talking about child abuse or murder here, so it doesn't factor in.
The crime (in the moral sense) is making the child porn in the first place. The only reason that looking at it is a crime is that it creates the market for more abuse to take place. I don't think you can say the same for a jihad website.
Way to miss the point. I'm not even going to bother.
I think you'll find Gary Glitter did a lot more than look.
All I see is idiots who pasted their photograph into a webpage showing the 9/11 hijackers for a bit of a laugh/daydreaming. It is a nauseating thing to do for most of us but illegal? LOL!
There is a very thin line here, and open to abuse. Was the female Boots employee (who happened to work at an airport... scary or what eh?) who wrote a stupid and childish poem about beheading an infidel really a threat, and deserving of going to jail for penning the poem? With no proof or indication that she actually intended to commit a crime, the fuck she was...
Vietnam. He's gonna be released soon too. I think he was only caught looking at child porn, so he only got 2 years, rather than the death sentence, which is what I think they usually get for child rape over there.
A few years ago these cases would have never reached court- indeed, charges would have never been brought up.
That is the whole point of this: there appears to be a clear and distinct new trend of punishing thoughts and beliefs now.
George Orwell got the title of his book wrong by just over two decades.
Would have the same jury reached the same veredict a few years ago, before the current, ludicrous bogeyman atmosphere had come to be? I very much doubt it.
Justice and common sense are going out of the window and being replaced by hysteria, irrationality and persecution at all levels.
Not good at all.
Yes but people fantasise about things that would seem immoral or abhorrent to others all the time, you should read some Nancy Friday
What we have to seperate is fantasy which hurts no one and intent unfortunately the internet is riddled with fantasists. These guys were superimposing their own heads onto pictures of 9/11 terrorists they sound like saddos to me, more the terrorist equivalent of Gareth from The Office
I'm at work so I'm not going to Google but who or what is Nancy Friday?
A writer on female sexuality and sexual liberation, she published a book which compiled womens sexual fantasies submitted to her. From what I remember some of them were pretty extreme including rape and bestiality.
It's a good example of the fact that pretty normal people will secretly fantasise about things they would never think about fulfilling.
Whew I was worried if I googled this weird site with some dodgy stories would come up which you spent your time reading.
See my last post on the repossessions thread
George orwell thought police anyone?
gary glitter actually had sex with children, i think you mean that chris langham character
looking at child porn is illegal because to make it is commiting an illegal act against someone who cannot consent, and thus watching it for gratuitous pleasure makes the distribution of it worse
i'm pretty libertarian but purposely viewing child pornography is a crime for a good reason, at the same time i can post a description of how to prepare explosive, there's nothing wrong in that it is how that inofrmation is used, unlike in child pornography or rape
things done between consenting adults though, well should be viewable by anyone who wants to watch it
no the man died from bleeding to death
the thing of having his penis cut off and eaten, if it was fien to them it is fine to me, who else did they harm? part from making me and 99.9% of people cringe when they heard of it
the fact the guy who ate him is in a mental home now says it all, it wasn't a criminal per se but a mental health issue, by both of them
it's like if someone want to kill themselves 100%, why prevent them, yes it's sad, and try to prevent them with reason and emotion, but give them an antisocial behaviour order