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Whinging boring Students

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited March 27 in Work & Study
it really amazes me how students can feel hard done by. they havre a cruisy life, get up at midday, drink every night of the week and then moan that they don't get enough support from the government (Ie Me and You).<P class="body">Well i'm SORRY, but i have no sympathy!!!<P class="body">I left school when I was 16 and have worked ever since. i was paid practically nothing at first but have now worked hard, long hours and make enough to be comfortable.<P class="body">And now my taxers are paying for students to get pissed up every night. <P class="body">so stop whinging!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Usually people like that are unaware they have it so easy. Its just a case of "you don't know how good you have it till its gone."<P class="body">I think the best way to look at is there always going to someone better off and worse off than you, so no point in whining either way.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by monkey929:
    "you don't know how good you have it till its gone."
    <P class="body">wow -- janet jackson is in our midst ;-)<P class="body">seriouslly though, not all students piss their grants away in the union. although, come to think of it, i don't know of any that don't!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hmmmm - so dissertations, exams, essays, presentations, coursework squashed inbetween 2-3 part time jobs doesn't take much effort???<P class="body">If you'd stayed at school a while longer I think you'd have the brain cells to realise that yes, students do actually have to work.<P class="body">Students can hardly be punished for having career aspirations higher than a factory floor worker can they????<P class="body">If you fancy leading the life of a student then get yourself a massive bank debt and stay up 24hrs a day by working, studying and partying. Then try saying it's an easy life.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by swt_uk:
    If you'd stayed at school a while longer I think you'd have the brain cells to realise that yes, students do actually have to work.
    <P class="body">A bit harsh don't you think? But other than that, I agree, all this "bloody student" crap we hear calls for a FACT.<P class="body">FACT: Only through education can we acheive economic growth. And so the fact that this is at least partly subsidised by the Government (your taxes) is good. So stop whining. In short, using my fuzzed-up logic, if you didn't pay for us to go to Uni, you wouldn't even have the job you have yourself.
    Fish.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by swt_uk:
    Hmmmm - so dissertations, exams, essays, presentations, coursework squashed inbetween 2-3 part time jobs doesn't take much effort???<P class="body">If you'd stayed at school a while longer I think you'd have the brain cells to realise that yes, students do actually have to work.
    <P class="body">Shit, if i ever needed living proof that students were moaners, then here it is. And you have 2-3 part-time jobs? Yeah right! propping up the bar at the union doesn't count!<P class="body">And no need to get personal - just because i didn't go to university doesn't mean i'm stupid.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I agree with Bluepeta. I am a student. I love being a student. There are some disadvantages. For a few weeks out of the year I have to work my ass of for exams, essays, etc. I also have a huge amount of debt and right now I have no idea where my next pint is coming from.
    The rest of the time everything is great. I have a great social life. I have plenty of free time to do things I want. The time I spend working is time spent on an interesting activity that I chose to study rather than just something to earn a quick buck.
    So, in total being a student is great but why begrudge us our fun?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've got a solution for all you students, don't go out and drink nearly every night, don't book holidays, in fact why don't you use all you hand outs on what they are supposed to be for and thats furthering your education. If you just stuck to studying you would all achieve your goals better and quicker, then you can all get a job like the rest of us! And if you all get a job then you will be able to buy more of they baggy clothes that have chains hanging from every thread <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; And I say to that ignoramis that came to the conclusion that just because you leave school early or don't go on to further education, you are a total asshole, I left at the end of fifth year and I have recently gained promotion to department supervisor within a rather large electronic firm and I earn £20,000 + bonuses a year so learn the facts before you try and bring us down, its people like you, who give students a bad name!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Okay, guilty as charged - I'm a student and I moan a lot. But doesn't everyone like the odd moan every so often? I think the way University is setup, it encourages students to act like they do. I know that if it wasn't like this, I'd spend more time studying/working at a p/t job than drinking and writing shite on messageboards.
    Everyone has their place in society, and yes being a student, like anything else is not the piece of cake many will have you believe. A lot of what you hear is true, a lot merely an overgrown stereotype.
    Listen to:
    http://www.mp3.com/autofire
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Life is supposed to be fun, and uni is the best time of your life. So please, dont begrudge us it! We've got the rest of our lives for being sensible, saving money, working 9-5 in a job we hate and setting up pension schemes, just enjoy let us it while we can.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i agree with bluepeta im only 16 but i work full time i started my own business last year and i dont need to go out everynight getting pissed to have a good time, things are to easy for most of you lol,
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i dont agree but probably only cos im 15!!!!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It is a fact that over the past fifteen years that the government has been systematically taking all benefits off students.
    In 1985, we had a student lodger, at that time he recieved housing benefit and a grant.
    The money he recieved allowed him to study and pass his course.
    I believe that people are out of touch with the current financial situation of students reliant on the Government to maintain them throughtout their studies.
    Please rest assured that 'free education' for the over twenty's is now a myth.
    People studying these days have to pay back ALL of the money they use during their studies.
    These are the facts.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I was forced to leave home at 16 years of age and I supported myself through my A-Levels and my time at uni.

    In the end I didn't finish my degree and I have shit loads of debt from studying.

    I am successful now and I must admit that there were some complete and utter wankers at uni but please remember not to generalise.

    Not everyone is the same and it is narrow minded to believe that they are.

    I feel more angry that my taxes pay for some lazy asses to sit on their butts all day simply because they don't want to work but they think its ok to keep having scores of kids.

    Not everyone on the dole is lazy. I had no choice but to sign on at a point in my life.

    So some students are sad moaners and some doleys are lazy wasters, but not everyone is the same.

    nuff said!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    to bluepeta,
    sounds 2 me like ur kinda jealous of the li8fe as a student at college and uni. i think that if u have the guts, and ambitions 2 go 2 uni, college then u deserve a little alcohol and partyin.
    if ud remained at school, or gone to college then u wouldnt of had shit pay.
    education is 1 of the most important things now adays, u need all u can get. although its been proven that most of the degrees studied arnt actually used in the jobs the students then do. so i suppose it would b awaste of time for most, but at least u could have a few letters after ur name, it sdounds kinda good.
    please dont take offence
    love ya helly
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by bluepeta:
    "they havre a cruisy life, get up at midday, drink every night of the week and then moan that they don't get enough support from the government"

    i am a student from reading college and although i am not scheduled to be IN college all day every day, we have to spend all day everyday working on assignments.

    of course after all the hard work we need to have one or two.
    it is also very important to have a social life or at least to get out. students dont go out everynight.
    most cant afford to.
    we have to juggle part time jobs with college work, exams, being dragged away by the parents, and bills when we live away from home.

    i spent the whole of last year living in a flat i rented and working for peanuts everyday at a shit sports chain. i was 17 then.
    the whole experience has made me grow up much quicker, and i can see things from both points of view.

    i hope you dont have anything shit to say about this as i have not slagged you off.

    please reply.
    Nephilim!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The thing is, you can moan about students all you like, but thhen what the economy be like without them?

    As someone mentioned - a nation full of factory workers. It's lucky not everyone is stupid enough not to go to uni, and we have a couple of people who work hard to earn more than a measly £20k p.a.

    It just seems stupid to me that people want to leave school at 16 and then go and get a crap job on crap wages and mis out on all the moaning and whinging that uni life can give you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I disagree strongly, I am a thrid year university and feel you see only the steriotypical image of student but think about this:

    1) we now no longer get a grant so have to get a loan.
    2) we now pay fees so our loan gets swallowed up.
    3) for those who get a job they can't hold it that long due to their studys so in the end no money is coming in
    4) the amount of work we have at any year we need at least 29 hrs in a day as all lecturers forget we have other subjects.
    5) most of us are away from home so travelling back to our family costs quite a bit now!

    okay i have had my say

    oh yeah...

    6) we still have bills to pay: phone, rent, electricity, water, gas for some people and that does not include the hundreds of pounds needing to be spent on books

    no money left for getting pissed at the end of that!!!!! but then again no money for essentials either GOVERNMENT, BUCK UP YOUR IDEAS!!!!!!


    Keep Well

    Sasy
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh my god u r so stupid. i hate posh people like you. i am a factory worker you dickhead and thre aint noting rong with me is ther!

    u r so stupid, i h8 ur sort, i thinc every1 here does 2 because educated does not mean you are better than any1 else does it becos realy u think u r so clever but realy we are the clever ons ho no much more than u do

    cos at leest we have jobs and r not scronjing off the guverment and stuf for monee and things anyway cos i dont cos i have my money i am a factory worker so dont take the piss out of your elders

    u must be a student, i can smel u off a mil away u idiot. i wil nt u one if i see u. i shal kil u if u dont wach it u cokky git
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    you can smell us, what about ur body odour? we're not posh, we just aint quite as low as factory workers. I guess we must seem pretty posh getting education and all. We dont scrounge money. At least you got a job? We got jobs too and they're alot better that factory jobs. what qualifications u got, anything? hmmmm....A level computing, business, accounting? I'd lick ur as if you managed that.

    Anyway, think ur a hacker, c'mon, hack my computer then if u think ur hard enough.

    [This message has been edited by dirty_harry (edited 03-11-2000).]
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    and bluepeta stop ur bitching. You seem to be the whiner.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Listen up everyone...

    I am working class and I am in the higher rate of tax payers!

    Intelligent people can rise up from the slums, its all about knowing what u want and going out there and getting it.

    It should be said that intelligent ppl and dumbasses can come from any social background.

    I have an education and so can anyone else in this country that has got the brains and the ambition regardless of their backgrounds.

    If I become a millionnaire I will still be working class and god damn proud!

    Just because someone works in factory does not make them dumb and just because someone is a well off does not make them 'posh'

    Stop the fucking class hatred for crying out loud!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Damn right! I come from a shithole and I've been offered scholarship from Berkeley and Cambridge, and I'm chuffed and I know it'[s because I've WORKED MY ARSE OFF!

    So dickhead hacker twat, FUCK OFF!!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    mortal wombat, respec'
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Don't you just love it when people slag off students??!!
    I am studying to become a teacher, i apologise for the fact that this involves me going to university, but i have no choice in the matter. I apologise for the fact that i am given no financial support whatsoever to do this, other than a loan which i will pay back myself once i start teaching on a low salary. Yes I do go out and socialise and get drunk, but i pay for it, it is no different to my working friends at home who go out and do the very same thing. Students may not have full days of lectures (and some do) but there is a lot of self directed study and if everyone just dossed about as was originally suggested then they wouldn't get degrees at the end of it. Everyone has different talents in life so who are we to stop those whose talents are academic? No, going to university doesn't make you a better person it just allows you to develop what you are good at.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Wind:

    I am studying to become a teacher, i apologise for the fact that this involves me going to university, but i have no choice in the matter. I apologise for the fact that i am given no financial support whatsoever to do this, other than a loan which i will pay back myself once i start teaching on a low salary.
    no, you won't start paying it back until you are on an average salary, which is around 18k


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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by bluepeta:
    it really amazes me how students can feel hard done by. they havre a cruisy life, get up at midday, drink every night of the week and then moan that they don't get enough support from the government (Ie Me and You).<P class="body">Well i'm SORRY, but i have no sympathy!!!<P class="body">I left school when I was 16 and have worked ever since. i was paid practically nothing at first but have now worked hard, long hours and make enough to be comfortable.<P class="body">And now my taxers are paying for students to get pissed up every night. <P class="body">so stop whinging!

    LOLOLOLOLOL Get up at midday?!!!! I NEVER get up any later that 7am unless I book the time off work!

    Monday I work from 9am till about 8.30pm. Then I get home & have tea, take the dog for a walk. It's then getting on for 10pm when I can relax.

    Tuesday I'm at college from 9am till 4.15pm. Then I get home at about 5pm. I take the dog for a walk have tea. Then I do coursework.

    Wednesday I work 9am till 5pm. I then normally go to a football training session till 7pm (OK thats my choice) I get home about 8pm and then i take the dog out again and do coursework if I didn't finish it the night before.

    Thursday I'm at college from 9am till 3:15pm. I rush home, get changed and and get to work for 4.30pm. I usually get out of work at about 8.30pm. Go home have tea and take the dog for a walk. Do coursework.

    Friday, I'm at college from 9am until 4.15pm I get home for about 5pm. Have dinner, take the dog for a walk. Then I do coursework. Then I pass out!

    I can't go out Friday nights cause I have to be up for 6am the next day. I work from 8am till 4pm go home walk the dog have tea etc etc. So I have a free Saturday evening. I still can't go out and enjoy myself cause guess what?

    I walk Sunday 9am till 2pm. Then I have the rest of sunday free.

    If your still with me then well done but that isn't going out having fun every night getting pissed and getting up at midday! Us students do a hell of a lot SO GET OFF OUR BACKS WILL YA!

    Remember when your older! You'll want us to pay your pention! If we don't study and get decent wages then you won't get a decent pension <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    I could go on and on but I won't bore you all anymore!!

    The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched - they must be felt with the heart.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So how do you get the time to come here Broken Heart lol.

    J9
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by j9j9:
    So how do you get the time to come here Broken Heart lol.

    J9

    I haven't had much coursework this past week <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; i managed to get it all done in lesson


    The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched - they must be felt with the heart.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I reckon students living off the DSS are not such a bad thing as everyone makes out. If people didnt go to university or college we wouldnt have people who were Doctors, Nurses, Dentists, Scientists, Designers of all things, Computer Analists and ,any more jobs like that.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    OK bluepeta what else have you got to say? Next time you slag us students off make sure you can back yourself up!

    The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched - they must be felt with the heart.
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