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As for the thread, I think it's good that our MPs are looking out for the religious freedoms of all parties. Even if it's 'PC gone mad' or stupid, it's better that they at least have a voice, rather than large arts of society being alienated and their MPs not willing to debate the issues.
Yeah - Jesus was mentioned by contemporary historians ... and there is quite a lot about Muhammed.
I think his dad or something is in the doomsday book. I have no idea. By dad, I don't mean God, I mean Mary's husband, Joseph. And his career was that of a carpenter.
And J - you're a nice bloke, and I'm trying to say this is a nice way - but you need some help mate. Dunno if you've been stressed but the past few months your posts have sometimes been gibberish and going on about nonsense. All I want is to see you happy and healthy, and atm it doesn't seem to me like you're either.
:yes: Seriously J - we've tried this before - P&D isn't a healthy or useful place for you right now - so please keep to the agreement you made.
Would be a fucking nice change wouldn't it - I'm still expecting to hear how Islam makes people fat...
Dieting offends God, didn't you know that? :rolleyes:
But it DOES. Didn't you know that? There's a verse in the Qur'an which says thou shalt not diet. (OK, I made that up).
Back on topic, this isn't just one MP, there seems to be a general trend among religionists at the moment to paint themselves as victims. I don't know when it started, or why. It seems like every other week there's someone like Christina Odone whining about "militant" atheists, (whatever that's supposed to mean), and the terrible discrimination they face.
Its people who cannot handle their favourite memes being criticized, I guess.
Jesus didn't have stigmata. Stigmata are bodily marks, sores, or sensations of pain in locations CORRESPONDING to the crucifixion wounds of Jesus.
Actually, the term originates from the line at the end of Saint Paul's Letter to the Galatians where he says, "I bear on my body the marks of Jesus," with "marks" in the Latin Vulgate rendered as "stigmata."
The Doomsday book is a survey of 11th century England. Jesus was born in 1st century Judea.
That aside, the census carried out that took Mary and Joseph to Bethlehem did happen in the early C1 AD (though as far as I know it hasn't survived) and Jesus has been mentioned by Tacitus amongst other Roman historians.
Seems so. Where are the calls for the blasphemy laws to be scrapped?
Well said! The blasphemy laws are a complete joke, FFS. We recently had the stupid spectacle of the BBC being sued under those laws for broadcasting Jerry Springer - The Opera. Obviously the prosecution was unsuccessful, but what a joke that there was even a law that allowed that in 21st century Britain.
Well the doomsday book was a census. I do know when he was born, no need to patronise me
Well, you did seem a bit confused. I thought you were joking at first. The Domesday book only affected England - not anywhere near Palestine.
My understanding is that there are no surviving contemporary records of him*. The mentions of him are from a century or two later, probably culled from histories/records which were around at the time, but which have since been lost
* if one ignores the Gospels of course;)
(I wish one could delete a post rather than having to put a '.' or whatever to cancel it)