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Russian Elections
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Looks like that nobjockey's in again.
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That doesnt sound like the Russian way at all.
I presume your term 'nobjockey', is just an endearing term for an 'upper class horse rider'?
Seriously, I never thought I'd say this, but you're spot on. With Boris Yeltsin around, democracy never stood a serious chance of survival. How could it, with a bumbling man who seemed to spend half his time dancing? (and very badly at that) And now, we've got Vladimir Putin, a man who recently allowed a half-naked picture of him to be circulated.
Mind you, I reckon that might have helped him with the female vote. Just pray to God that Gordon Brown, whenever he has the guts to call an election, doesn't do the same. :nervous:
Ultimately however, the Russians were happy enough with their current leader, so they let him carry on in the job. He must be doing something right. He appears to be fairly popular in Russia itself, (I think his long-stated opposition to the Iraq war has helped him win votes to no end) so that makes it difficult to work out how much vote-rigging has actually gone on.
The US has called for an investigation into claims of vote-rigging after President Vladimir Putin's party swept to a landslide victory in Russia."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/03/wrussia203.xml
Oh the irony! It's killing me!
Under Putin, like Budda says, most Russians have never had it so good. Yes there are serious problems but show me a country where there aren't. Russia's advantage is, at least in theory, it's never been better equipped to deal with those problems than under Putin.
Also as Budda says, Russia needs a strong leader. It's no coincidence that pretty much without exception through history, she has been at her most prosperous under a strong helm and rendered totally impotent under weak leaders.
He never said that at all. He said some Russians have never had it so good. I assume he's referring to the billionaires living off Russia's oil money. He also goes on to say that the poor continued to be poor. You can't buy a wife from anywhere other than a country poor people are desperate to leave.
What am I missing - what's maternal about Russia?
In a strange way you might be right, granted they are living is a quasi-dictatorship, but if there is food on the table and a job to go to most people dont really care.
But - its not good for a lot of people (the Chechens for example) and there are still lots of people who have next to nothing.
And there is the whole censorship thing, the murders of journalists and protestors, the banning of any protests, the murdering of dissidents.
Its a mixed bag, and for those who keep their head down and do ok I can see why they like him. What concerns me is that it is heading more and more towards a dictatorship, which are never good in the long run.
what i don't get is that it didn't need to be unfair, he probably would of won massively anyway :chin: unless he is planning to put through some major constitutional changes, which of course are in the pipeline now
reminds me of nixon, from what i've read around the time he probably would of won anyway, without all the problems that watergate bought about
Some people raise the issue of Chechnya here. There's no doubt that this needs to be resolved one way or another, but I don't see Putin in any rush to sort it out just yet.
Nixon beat McGoven like a gong, there was no need for Watergate at all - but then if he'd just burnt the tapes when they were first brought up he would have gotten clean away with it. He was either too arrogant or too stupid to do so.
exactly, in russia they jut done it to make sure - in the long run it will work against them though, sometimes people have to go through shitcreek to see what they've allowed...
didn't know this but in russia these days there's 40% more FSB on the streets per citizen than when the USSR was about