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Report: Public transport "is shit"
BillieTheBot
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Well, that's not quite Transport 2000's conclusion, but it might as well be. According to the Beeb: "Public transport has too many weak links making it difficult to switch from one mode to another, a report by an environmental group has found. Travellers polled for a Transport 2000 survey said buses did not connect with train times and stations had insecure cycle parking and poorly-lit footpaths. The poll also showed only 29% thought bus timetables were clear and accurate." Click here for the details >>
I used public transport to get to and from work for several years. I have been driving for two months now. Frankly, I wished I'd learnt to drive much sooner. I hated sharing a bus home on a Saturday night with some brash, drunken moron. I hated the fact that fares seemed to go up every single year, and always in August when the tourists were around. I hated the fact the buses were slow and unreliable - miss one connection and I might have to wait two hours for the next bus. With my car, no such worries!
And I save money by using my car. To get to and from work each day by public transport (two buses) used to cost me £4.60. As I work a six-day week, that brings the cost to £27.60 per week! My car needs re-fuelling once every nine or ten days, I put £20 in it at a time. That means it costs me just £2 per day if I use the car. That's less than half the cost of going on the buses. Frankly, any politician who thinks he can get me out of my car and back onto buses can fuck off!
So, do you use public transport? If you do, what do you reckon? How much does it cost you? If not, why don't you? Over to you...
I used public transport to get to and from work for several years. I have been driving for two months now. Frankly, I wished I'd learnt to drive much sooner. I hated sharing a bus home on a Saturday night with some brash, drunken moron. I hated the fact that fares seemed to go up every single year, and always in August when the tourists were around. I hated the fact the buses were slow and unreliable - miss one connection and I might have to wait two hours for the next bus. With my car, no such worries!
And I save money by using my car. To get to and from work each day by public transport (two buses) used to cost me £4.60. As I work a six-day week, that brings the cost to £27.60 per week! My car needs re-fuelling once every nine or ten days, I put £20 in it at a time. That means it costs me just £2 per day if I use the car. That's less than half the cost of going on the buses. Frankly, any politician who thinks he can get me out of my car and back onto buses can fuck off!
So, do you use public transport? If you do, what do you reckon? How much does it cost you? If not, why don't you? Over to you...
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'my other car is a bus'
noone would get anywhere in cities if EVERYONE used car
opposite is true in empty areas
use car when appropiate, use train/bus when appropiate
Wish I could get away £20 every ten days though lol.
Apparantly it is cheaper to use public transport than it is to use a car. Even if you use a taxi to get to work. I know it is only 2 pound a day for your petrol but think of insurance/road tax/repairs.
I agree, public transport in North Wales is terrible. It is getting better though. I used the bus a few weeks ago to get from Rhyl to Denbigh and they are every ten minutes now. Took me by suprise, back in the day they used to be every half an hour, so that is definitely an improvement!
Trains could be better for the prices we pay, but I am a big fan of pulic transport as it does stop us using our cars. More can be done, but in places like North Wales, it is hard and cars are normally neccesary which is a shame.
Then there's the cost of the car, tax, parking and insurance...
Around the rest of the UK, I think public transport is slow, expensive and is some cases non- exsistant.
But I could have told Transport 2000 that years ago.
The only orbital route in the North which is Silverlink does not even have proper interchanges with most of the lines, and you can't use Oyster Pre-pay on it yet. Also the service is simply too infrequent.
Most bus routes go all over the place rather than along one main route, and if you have to change buses and you are using Oyster Pre-pay you pay for each bus rather than for the whole journey.
In addition, buses stop far too often and it is not unknown for a bus to just sit there "killing time".
This happens in Plymouth. I used to go to a work placement that was about 4 miles from my home. I used to have to catch the 7.30 bus and sometimes the bus driver would just sit there for about 5 minutes before moving again even though there no-one waiting for that bus.
TBH, bus fare is stupidly expensive. It used to me nearly £2 just to get from the hospital to town. (which really isn't that far, but not walkable because of the roads)
But hey, it's Britain, what do you expect.
Which if you've already paid for, there's not much point trying to convince you to use public transport. Public transport may offer you a viable reason not to buy a car. It certainly doesn't offer a viable reason not to use a car you've already paid for in most cases.
london's transport system is perfectly adaptable to other cities of the UK, part from the tube section - but it's buses are good too, they are regular, but not too regular it's pointless, and they're cheaper too
reason buses stop is that they're ahead of schedule so they delay themselves, so that if people are going to get that bus they don't miss it and have to wait longer than normal, which is far more frustrating
should be that you either use car where public transport cant service well to an a transport hub on the edge of cities and go from there, which lots of people do, or using car to go shopping only when you're travelling awkwad places for big objects
and more importantly encouraging car sharing and moped usage is a good bet
But if there are situations where you might need a car, and therefore you've already invested a lot of money into owning one, it's hard to convince someone not to use it. If I lived in a big city with a decent public transport system, I wouldn't buy a car. But if I moved to a big city with my car that I've already paid for, I certainly wouldn't use public transport unless it was beneficial to do so, which in most cases it isn't.
Why didn't you get a weekly bus pass for £15? or a monthly one saving you even more money?
single covers you anywhere within Newport for £1.05 and most places are pretty easy to get to and buses are regular, from mine to town is every 15 mins.
buses to cardiff are usually every 20 mins and buses to various other points from central bus station
don't know about trains as i never get them
My current employer would give me a loan for a bicycle.
My medical school used to cover some transport costs for some students, but not any longer. I don't know what the official line is this year. My boyfriend's former employer would pay for his travel expenses.
What we need are busses that as well as going into town centres they go around the outskirts going to the other ten thousand destinations someone might want to go.
Besides, each journey I take on a bus takes me 3 times as long than if I went in a car. I can leave for work 20 minutes before my shift and arrive with time to spare. To get a bus would take 1 1/2 hours.
I'm technically employed by my agency as a consultant so I get about £25 a week in travel expenses. My train ticket only costs £13.80 a week and that only one way as I get a lift home.
I like trains, they do run mainly ion time and the connection through Brighton are quite good. The local buses around Brighton are good, but quite expensive. My monthly ticket used to cost nearly £50 but I could use it on all services every day of the week. I refuse to use the Stagecoach bus service in Worthing, overpriced and crap.
Generally I dislike driving, its stressful, expensive and nasty - that and I cant read my book while doing it.
In London unless you are in a few odd places the transport is good, fast and reliable.
I love the train and would like to use it but face with the indescribably exhorbitant prices they demand for tickets I end up driving. A recent trip to Newcastle was £70 cheaper by car than by train- and that was for just two of us.
If you book in advance you can get dirt cheap fares on that line.