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God Bless America and the Capitalist system.
The NHS is one of hte best things to ever happen. It's just a shame we don't have a left wing government who appreciate it anymore.
Bloody system. NHS = good. Crappy conservative governments = bad. I do include our current rulers under that too.
Oh i do, I've seen SiCKo
Couldn't fault the maternity when my little boy was born, i mean that was just brilliant not that i've experienced,
and now im having my tonsills removed, i've to wait 4-5months, not bad imo for a non urgent op.
The cleaning standards are another issue, if you've ever seen a hospital cleaner do their thing it will all become clear, and if you find out how much they are paid and how much training, support or supervision they get things move from being clear to blatantly obvious.
Follow up care is from my experience poorly organised and you've got to be very determined, demanding, know exactly what you need, and have a damn good understanding of the system to get what you need from my experience.
That said, we are very lucky, at the point of care things are free and there are no surprise expenses, and no battles with insurance companies over whats covered and whats not.
I remember one episode of 30 days with Morgan Spurlock where him and his other half had to survive on American minimum wage. He knackered his hand up at work, spent all of that month's money on a doctors bill (including something like $30 for "medical supplies" which amounted to a single stretch of bandage worth about 50p), then spent some of next month without any money because he couldn't work because of his hand. The American system is indeed a shit-tip. Having said that, I've had hardly anything wrong with me, so I reckon I'm at a net loss as far as the NHS is concerned. I should injure myself and get my money's worth.
No, a small section of society gets a kick ass health care system, the rest either dont get any, or have to pay loads.
44 million people in the US have NO insurance at all, imagine that, every time you wanted to go to your GP, get a prescription, anything you need to pay for it out of your pocket.
And yes, technically if you are a life and death case the hospital will (probably) treat you, but they will send you a bill for it all afterwards.
Its vile for a country which prides itself on being 'god fearing' and christian to let thousands of people die for lack of healthcare.
I think sometime next month, but a DVD version is already on the internet, and michael moore has already said that he doesnt mind if people copy it
Oh, I bet that pleased his distributors.
Oh so unemployed people don't pay tax ? :rolleyes:
NB NHS costs about £1800 per person per year...
So what do you think the tax we pay on stuff we buy goes towards?:rolleyes:
And i dont know if unemployed people pay NI.
I bloody hope not considering that if I had to pay prescription charges in the last few months, I would've already spent nearly £30 on them. (and hardly used any of the medication)
Perhaps the most moving bit was when he took a load of really ill people whose insurance companies wouldn't fund the care they needed to Cuba where, owing to the Cuban health service being absolutely first class, got treated free of charge and got pharmaceuticals at such a discount it wasn't funny. One woman, for her respiratory drug, was paying $120 for what in Cuba cost $0.15. Very interesting film.
It annoys me though when you hear about stuff like people having their lady bits tightened or breast enlargements on the NHS.
... and you miss the point that NI isn't the only source of funding for the NHS. In fact NI is just tax in another guise and actually bears little relationship with the NHS at all.
Beat me