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Of course. But I've seen some disgraceful stuff from coppers - from people in a job that demands fairness, truth and justice - a job where peoples freedom is on the line.
If you don't nothing will change.
I understand. But that makes me really mad to know some coppers are like that. I hope you have better experiences with them in the future, cos there are some real good, fair, and decent coppers out there who give their lives to protect us.
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Not so.
It's not that they are enforced, that you complain about, it's that they exist.
It wasn't complaints about the enforcement of Poll Tax which got it changed, it was the marches and the public outcry about the law. The same enforcement regime is in place for the current local taxation system.
Yes the old bill did their job, but it was pointless.
Yes, but again you are pissed because the law exists in the first place. Get rid of the law and you get rid of the enforcement of that law.
Pointless jobs?
Welcome to the world of the public sector
too true
it was none of that .. thats the whole point.. they've saw the direction we've came from into the town, they've watched us going through town, and they've pulled us off the bus we got on because they didnt like where we came from and didn't like where we were going
done absolutely NOTHING to draw any attention to ourselves (+ it was me and one other person, wouldnt even have been as bad if it was a crowd of us) walking through the town, and i don't know how it was entirelly possible that my body language gave away that i was doing 'something illegal' if i didnt even know i had anything in my pocket
its discrimination and as indrid said, abuse of the law
yea, and thats really comparable to this situation..
how'd you work that one out then?
ive explained why it was harsh several times.. if i had have been from one of several areas in the city i wouldn't have been cautioned, thats a fact .. a good example is gettin the caution for drinking in public whereas turlough walked away.. theres so many examples of it happening, so you can stfu with your 'playing the victim card' shite
My thought exactly.
o are those laws 'stupid'? They are there to protect the public; NOT just to piss of the drug addicts.
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drug addicts? that's a bit presumptious don't you think.
:banghead: Done that at least 3 times now.
there WAS NO SUSPICION OF A KNIFE.. they used it merely as an excuse to search us.. can you get that through your head? they didn't actually think we we carrying a knife
and im not even gonna bother with the second part of what you said
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Are you talking to her, or getting a blow job with your eyes shut ?
Yes they are stupid, they don't protect the public, and they don't just affect addicts either.
ive worded it wrong in that post.. ive you cared to read any of the SEVERAL following posts..
i bet you've been sitting waiting for a chance to throw in some shitty sexual innuendo
i've the police to blame for unlawfully searching me
thats actually the most frustrating part, anything else had been left behind, like i said i didnt realise it was in my pocket .. the only reason he found is was because he was scraping along the insides of my pockets and turning them inside out, looking for this so called 'knife'
im not concerned in the slightest about what i lost, its gettin unfairly penalised that bothers me :thumb:
According to you. What evidence do you have of that?
You are just assuming they didn't think you had a knife.
Your version is they saw you, didn't like the look of you or where you are from or who you were with or where you were going etc and decided 'what can we say to search these lads for drugs?' and they came up with 'ah, we'll say he has a knife, that'll work and then we can find the drugs we are suspicious that he has.'
You are assuming they thought this. How do you actually know they did?
I always thought the Police could stop and search you because they were suspicious you were carrying drugs. Can they not do this? Does it have to be suspician of a knife or a gun or something like that?
You are assuming that because the police are the police, that they have some agenda against you because you are catholic. Ignoring the fact that actually you may have given them cause for concern.
You are prejudiced against them before they even talk to you, aren;t you?
Do you really think that they get their kicks from this, that they are happy to create work for themselves just to harass a couple of people? Do you have any idea of the amount of work they created for themselves?
Most coppers I know would rather have a quiet life.
And you can kiss my arse. You claim illegal search but offer no evidence apart from an opinion - you even accept that your body language could have been a reason.
The contempt you show for the police shines through, in prejudice mainly, and hell you even considered not attending according to bail because this isn't important enough for you.
This whole debate has been about you playing the victim when actually you can't back it up. You are a criminal who got caught so stop with the whole "woe is me" approach.
if they truely thought we had a knife they would have stopped us ages beforehand.. not after we got on a bus to go home..
its not even specifically that i think they thought we had drugs, its more the fact they were hassling us for no reason
i done absolutely nothing of the sort
yes.
you have a very different police force
it was fuck all to do with 'woe is me' it kicked off with tweety and her 'they're just doing they're job' shite, it started out as a question and progressed from there.. i know they're cunts i accept they're cunts and my opinion isn't going to change, its all this shite saying i deserved it thats turning it into an argument, i know the reasons why i got stopped and be to quite honest i don't care if you don't believe them
i have more than enough reasons, thats not to say im anything other than polite to the police in the street, just as i was that day, and thats for my own good, not because i like them.
They generally do. When I was younger the fact that I was friends with the travellers meant I got tugged at every opertunity. Often for them just tell me to relay messages, and then they'd slap me with a producer.
Young people get treated like shit by the police. It's wrong.
Exactly, what does MoK know anyway about the situation? FUCK ALL!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if z was a black guy from Brixton, you'd all be signing a different tune.
That's right, I know nothing. Except hang on, I fucking do.
Dude, you should have been around in the 70s and early 80s. The police today act with one had behind tied their back in comparison with what I had to deal with as a teenager.
The problem now is a lack of respect for the law, more than that y'all give the impression that you think you are above the law for some reason and when you get caught you cry "foul" rather than fess up to the fact that you finally got caught for something. Bang to rights.
Truly you are pathetic. There is always someone else to blame, isn't there?
No I wouldn't. I would say the same thing. It is easy to play the victim card - especially when you are in trouble. It's a defence mechanism - a way of shifting blame rather than accept responsibility for your own actions.
Just because you have the opinion that the police act a lot differently now in comparison to the 70s and 80s does not prove you know anything about the situation.
But hey, I know nothing.