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This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages... The following verse is from the Quran, (the Islamic Bible)

Quran (9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.

Note the verse number!!!!!

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: I thought this was interesting
    Originally posted by Zella
    This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages... The following verse is from the Quran, (the Islamic Bible)

    Quran (9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.

    Note the verse number!!!!!

    spoooooky! are you reading the quran?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    no

    it got emailed to me by my sis.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Zella
    no

    it got emailed to me by my sis.
    ive had things like this before, they are usually made up babe. i thought it was kuran...or started with a K anyway :confused:


    Has anyone here read it?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    read a bit of it, cant remember owt of it tho. it can be quran or koran or some other spellings coz its translated from arabic.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'll give a dollar for somebody to read that Koran and actually find that verse...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    but do you actually have a doller to bet with me dear?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by my_name
    I'll give a dollar for somebody to read that Koran and actually find that verse...
    thats not much:(
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    hell i'll give someone $10 if you can find where in the koran/quoran/qoran/etc... /bible/any religious book ever that it says it's ok to kill people.

    and also a bonus $15 to anyone who can give me a good reason as to why there's dinosaur bones on earth but no mention of dinosaurs in the bible...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    reading the kroan...are the chapters like in the bible?
    cos all we know from the text is it chapter 9 verse 11.
    what if there are loads and loads books in it like there is in the bible ali and bu bu instead of matthew and john (dnt slay me its just an example i dnt know any real names)
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by kaffrin


    and also a bonus $15 to anyone who can give me a good reason as to why there's dinosaur bones on earth but no mention of dinosaurs in the bible...

    cos their spades wernt as good as our and they couldnt dig very well to find them. and plus :p
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Zella
    but do you actually have a doller to bet with me dear?

    I actually found $5 in the laundry so... ;)

    And I'm not totally sure how the Koran is chaptered, but isn't the Koran the one where it is not like stories like the bible, but the verses are listed from the longest to the shortest, so its not in any type of chronological order... or is that a different religious text?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm pretty sure Eagles are only found in the USA, Canada, Mexico and those sort of areas, plus some parts of africa.

    So how likely is it Eagles were even known about in the days when the Koran was written.

    But then again Gulf airlines have an eagle on their planes!!
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Just found this on a website
    http://www.christianlinks.com/forums/archive/topic/51123.html


    Posted by: John Ings

    Are there any Muslims in the house? Or someone with a translation of
    the Koran? I have the following in an e-mail and would like a check on
    it's authenticity--

    **********************

    Quran (9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a
    fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the
    lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair
    still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of
    Allah; and there was peace.

    Note the verse number!

    *****************

    Sounds fishy to me...


    ## Scepticism is the chastity of the intellect.






    Posted by: Kiwimac

    Nope its a crock,

    Here is Surah 9 from the Qu'ran

    (up to verse 12)

    The Koran

    ----

    The Immunity
    [9.1] (This is a declaration of) immunity by Allah and His Apostle towards
    those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement.
    [9.2] So go about in the land for four months and know that you cannot
    weaken Allah and that Allah will bring disgrace to the unbelievers.
    [9.3] And an announcement from Allah and His Apostle to the people on the
    day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah and His Apostle are free from
    liability to the idolaters; therefore if you repent, it will be better for
    you, and if you turn back, then know that you will not weaken Allah; and
    announce painful punishment to those who disbelieve.
    [9.4] Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement, then
    they have not failed you in anything and have not backed up any one against
    you, so fulfill their agreement to the end of their term; surely Allah loves
    those who are careful (of their duty).
    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters
    wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in
    wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and
    pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving,
    Merciful.
    [9.6] And if one of the idolaters seek protection from you, grant him
    protection till he hears the word of Allah, then make him attain his place
    of safety; this is because they are a people who do not know.
    [9.7] How can there be an agreement for the idolaters with Allah and with
    His Apostle; except those with whom you made an agreement at the Sacred
    Mosque? So as long as they are true to you, be true to them; surely Allah
    loves those who are careful (of their duty).
    [9.8] How (can it be)! while if they prevail against you, they would not pay
    regard in your case to ties of relationship, nor those of covenant; they
    please you with their mouths while their hearts do not consent; and most of
    them are transgressors.
    [9.9] They have taken a small price for the communications of Allah, so they
    turn away from His way; surely evil is it that they do.
    [9.10] They do not pay regard to ties of relationship nor those of covenant
    in the case of a believer; and these are they who go beyond the limits.
    [9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are
    your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people
    who know.
    [9.12] And if they break their oaths after their agreement and (openly)
    revile your religion, then fight the leaders of unbelief-- surely their
    oaths are nothing-- so that they may desist.

    Source: http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/kora...amp;byte=282392

    Kiwimac

    --
    Rev. Dr. Raymond John McIntyre, DD., PhD.
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    "John Ings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Are there any Muslims in the house? Or someone with a translation of
    > the Koran? I have the following in an e-mail and would like a check on
    > it's authenticity--
    >
    > **********************
    >
    > Quran (9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a
    > fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the
    > lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair
    > still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of
    > Allah; and there was peace.
    >
    > Note the verse number!
    >
    > *****************
    >
    > Sounds fishy to me...
    >
    >
    > ## Scepticism is the chastity of the intellect.
    >
    >






    Posted by: Lordling

    It's bull....
    The Immunity 9.11 actually says 'But if they repent and keep up prayer
    and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make
    the communications clear for a people who know.'

    John Ings <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > Are there any Muslims in the house? Or someone with a translation of
    > the Koran? I have the following in an e-mail and would like a check on
    > it's authenticity--
    >
    > **********************
    >
    > Quran (9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a
    > fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the
    > lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair
    > still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of
    > Allah; and there was peace.
    >
    > Note the verse number!
    >
    > *****************
    >
    > Sounds fishy to me...
    >
    >
    > ## Scepticism is the chastity of the intellect.




    Posted by: Sarah

    You're right to smell old kippers, John.

    For a start, no verses in the Koran begin with the phrase "It is written". This is a reference to a source and it's fundamental in Islam (as I understand it) that the Koran is the source itself, not a citation of anything higher, purer or more ancient.

    Unlike the Bible which (correct me if I'm wrong) is believed to have been written by the prophets (or others) over many centuries, so that later books of the Bible do quote earlier ones,
    the Koran is believed to be a book existing in heaven since the beginning of time and authored by God, who speaks in it in the first person plural throughout. It is thought to have been dicated to Mohammed by the Angel Gabriel (Jibreel in Arabic) over a number of months. It therefore does not quote - why would God quote from anyone else?

    (I just checked this by searching the words "it is written" in an online Koran database - 2 hits, both referring to the record of an individual's good and evil actions supposed to be kept in heaven to confront them after their death.)

    It's easy to put this stuff to the test: the Koran is widely available online, though translations differ. Like Kiwimac, I used the University of Michigan's one.

    http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/simple.html

    In Peace

    Sarah Walker
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by DiamondGeezer


    Good job boy :) *spanks you*

    Though I hope you don't really want that dollar, I have to buy some cigerettes.
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