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debating skills
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are you a natural born debater or have you learnt the skills yourself? What do you think makes a good debate? How do you argue a point effectively?
I suppose this is a wee extension of Becky's thread on advice for the politics forum. I have always had opinions on what's going on in the world, but until recently I've always kept them to myself. So I'm still in the learning process for debating.
Apologies if this thread is a bit incomprehesible, am a bit drunk at time of typing. but I am looking for good advice.
I suppose this is a wee extension of Becky's thread on advice for the politics forum. I have always had opinions on what's going on in the world, but until recently I've always kept them to myself. So I'm still in the learning process for debating.
Apologies if this thread is a bit incomprehesible, am a bit drunk at time of typing. but I am looking for good advice.
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NO, Im a natural hot headed redhead at the moment
Im slowly learning the skills which I have learned from other posters here. Im picking up little things by the way people present their posts, its little things which just stick in my head and one day I will be as good as all the rest
But isnt being a good debater replyig to questions with a sentence ? I know a poster who the majority of times uses 2 or 3 word replies and doesnt really answer the question put to them.
*uses best 'old tory' voice*
HEAR! HEAR!
No.
I don't.
I just have some kind of drive for the discussions I particioate in.
Yeh, I agree. I think having strong sources to back up your argument gives it strength and confidence to yourself in what you're saying.
and sometimes ...just sometimes ...common sense rules over education.
No one has said that your voice doesn't count.
I can't recall people stating "I am educated, therefore I know better", only when they're actually educated in that specific field the discussion is built upon.
Why do you need to bring in the whole education factor into this?
what pisses me off about education is ...some guy gets honours in geography and religous studies say and then end up running a rail network or the health service or such like. most politicians are not educated in what they are actualy doing.
notice that i emphasised the sometimes by repeating it?
and nowhere did i even suggest that i thought my voice didn't count.
wake up girl!
isn't that what Rolly said?
I was joking.
afraid your beliefs and ideas might be ridiculed? we know your a right winger. we don't know why.
Being a good debator is backing up your views with plausable evidence. It's also listening to other people's points of views and showing empathy on the odd occasion.
As for what Mr Roll says about education, I've met Oxford graduates and still I can get a better conversation from a binman. Life is what makes us and some people are way too sheltered.
I dunno if I'm good at debating, my laptop doesn't like me much and shuts down when it likes, losing most of my posts. Now I'm not the most intelligent person, nor the most educated but I apply what I've learnt both through life and academics and it annoys me when people don't back up what they believe... why? Because it makes the debate meaningless and just... dumb?
Definitely, I think listening to other people is a must - and actually reading their posts properly, without jumping to conclusions about what you think they're saying.