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Understanding loved boys and boy lovers
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Amazon are not going to take a book off it's shelf called
Understanding loved boys and boy lovers
It's a pro- paedophile book telling people how the freakish paedophile's are just insecure and that there's nothing wrong with and older male having sex with s boy under the legal age of consent.
Surely a book the express' these sort of views should be taken off sale as it's just basicly saying that that vile paedophile's are just normal people like me and you and give out the message that abuseing young children is not wrong.
Hmmmm, I read yesterday that Amazon wasn't gonna take it down but it now looks like they have.
Understanding loved boys and boy lovers
It's a pro- paedophile book telling people how the freakish paedophile's are just insecure and that there's nothing wrong with and older male having sex with s boy under the legal age of consent.
Surely a book the express' these sort of views should be taken off sale as it's just basicly saying that that vile paedophile's are just normal people like me and you and give out the message that abuseing young children is not wrong.
Hmmmm, I read yesterday that Amazon wasn't gonna take it down but it now looks like they have.
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Next I'd expect books which condone rape then..:rolleyes:
I think it should be illegal and it is certainly extremely wrong. Most societys would agree that the "love" children have for an adult is non-sexual and there is no way that any apologist can get around this. The fact that their genitalia, for instance, have not yet fully developed would keep any normal human being at a distance from them sexually ... after all, we don't eat unripen fruit, do we?
Simple.
It's a sexual fetish in the same way that some people like S&M, others like feet and the really perverted like the missionary position.
Paedophilia - from a sexual point of view - is no different to homosexuality or heterosexuality.
Society believes it to be wrong though.
Anyway, monocrat, what ever happened to freedom of choice without state intervention?
Paeidophilla is very different from homosexuality and hetrosexuality because a person must be twisted to prey on child.
'....what ever happened to freedom of choice without state intervention?'
Whatever happened to protection of children?
They are not mature enough to be making this form of decision.
With freedom comes responsibility. I suppose you think otherwise, huh?
This person may have the right to say what he wants on this issue but not to do it.
Why should people be especially 'nice' to children? Why should children expect such treatment? It's unnecessary.
Im not saying that peadophilia is Ok, but some people think it is twisted to be attracted to the same sex. For instance, in Queer as Folk, the lad consented to it, but he was underage. He was 14 though, and old enough to know what was going on. Though that was seen as peadophilia.
And the quote he said dan, was what monocrat says all the time. He seems to have double standards. Well no, he just wants to disagree with everyone else :rolleyes:
We were all kids once and to quote Arthur Schopenhaur - "Compassion is the basis of all morality"
To ensure good mental health in adults they need a stable childhood.
1. Don't assume that all paedophiles "prey" on children. Not all are sexually active.
2. What makes someone who finds children attractive any more "twisted" than someone who finds the same/opposite sex attractive?
This was more aimed at monocrat than a general statement. He usually argues that the state should intervene in areas of individual choice...
Says society. But why?
I don't want you to think that I condone paedophilia, but I think we need to understand why the laws are there as they are. To suggest that they are there because paedophiles are twisted, or perverted, isn't enough.
I understand that research suggests that people with paedophile tendencies "learn" their behaviour whereas attraction to the same/opposite sex is genetic. Many victims become predators themselves thus enlarging the circle.
I think the lines between paedophilia and sex with a minor are getting more than a little blurred in this country....Having sex with someone who is below the age of consent does not automatically make one a paedophile. Remember there is no such crime as paedophilia, only child abuse/molestation laws.
Being a paedophile means being attracted to prepubescent children...Its rare these days that a 14 year old boy is prepubescent.
Looks like Amazon have still got the book up for sale..
I never knew this was old news! I only read it my self in The Sun the other day. I'm just looking at peoples comments on the book and one person say's.:
"As a pedophile myself I found this book to be enlightening in my quest to truly come to terms with my own sexuality... Although it doesn't glorify child molestation it does attempt to shed the positive aspects of a healthy boy/male relationship... For anyone trying to understand this phenomenon that is fairly commonplace in society this brave book argues the point as well as any other..."
"it may help parents to understand that there may actually be benefits to such relationships." What ever.
That's just not right! there's loads of more or less the same comments. :mad:
There's one story here but's it's quite old. Maybe if you look at www.thesun.co.uk you might be able to find some stuff on it there.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29094
That was my point
Personally I think children deserve a few years of jelly babies and playtime before they are exposed to the adult world of sex and vice.
You really don't understand people do you? Are you a sociopath?
I read a few open letters sent to a daily paper and the amount of people who were disgusted with this decision was tremendous. Lots of people wrote in to say they were now going to boycott Amazon because of this so all in all if these people do as they say then Amazon could be in for a big suprise.
My view on this is it should never have been allowed to get to print stage let alone reach the shelves.
What scares me most about this whole thing is the fact that this book is a *Best Seller*, now thats what I cant understand.
the western worlds obsession with freedom to be who we want and do what we want when we want ...as some kind of 'right' is going to far. we have to have rules and laws and boundaries to have any chance of having a decent world in which to live but no ...to many people believe they can do whatever they like ...we are sowing the seeds of our own destruction.
Is Amazon the only place that sells this book? It seems that way...
They are sitting back and watching images of children being abused. Surely that's aiding and abbetting, if nothing else.
i cannot for the life of me understand the mentality of the legal nobs who want to push this apart from showing off what clever bastards they are with legal matters.