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North Korea: we have nuclear weapons- US report
BillieTheBot
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Accoding to US sources North Korea has told the Americans it already possesses nuclear weapons. Story .
So how likely is it that they're telling the truth? Could it be that they're scared that they're next in Bush's hit list and are trying to pre-empt any thoughts of an attack?
Or for that matter, are the Americans telling the truth about these allegations?
If it is true I don't know what can the US really do. The N. Koreans broke an aid agreement based on the freezing of their nuclear programme, but other than asking for the money back nobody has much right to demand that North Korea disarms. AFAIK they have as much right to own nukes as any of the 8 nuclear nations that exist today (unless the Korea War ceasefire agreement ruled against WMDs proliferation).
Will the US attack this "axis of evil"( :rolleyes: ) country that openly admits to owning WMDs? Or are we about to witness a new Cold War?
So how likely is it that they're telling the truth? Could it be that they're scared that they're next in Bush's hit list and are trying to pre-empt any thoughts of an attack?
Or for that matter, are the Americans telling the truth about these allegations?
If it is true I don't know what can the US really do. The N. Koreans broke an aid agreement based on the freezing of their nuclear programme, but other than asking for the money back nobody has much right to demand that North Korea disarms. AFAIK they have as much right to own nukes as any of the 8 nuclear nations that exist today (unless the Korea War ceasefire agreement ruled against WMDs proliferation).
Will the US attack this "axis of evil"( :rolleyes: ) country that openly admits to owning WMDs? Or are we about to witness a new Cold War?
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my money is on the n.koreans having a tragic accident and going bang! we know it wasn't an accident though.
The US wont invade because of the incredible casualties they will receive..
There wont be a cold war because NK are starving and its only a matter of time before something happens.
Personally I think China will step in and slap down NK like the bitch child they are. In fact it wouldnt surprise me in the least to see chinese troops going into NK and forcibly removing the problems.
I agree with Balddog, not wanting to see nuclear mushroom clouds blossoming on its border China will demand NKorea to disarm or face about 2 million troops flooding over its border.
As for Korea itself, why they're huffing and puffing about defending themselves I don't know, yes they may have a nuke or 2, but do they have the capability to launch them towards the USA before having 500 sent back?
Maybe not, but they can probably hit Japan. They probably do think that claiming to have nukes already may give pause to any plans to invade them and force them to disarm.
They wouldn't be the first
I never thought of China sorting NK out before! Brilliant idea.
Which is precisely why the US had to act before Iraq go hold of the same weaponry...
Rephrase your question and perhaps you'll get the answer...
What right does the US have to say who constitutes a threat to them?
But are they likely to use their WMD? And why would they be invading? On a whim, perchance.
I mean honestly?
Are you telling me that you cannot spot the difference between a democratically elected leader and one there through oppression?
I get your point, Aladdin, but you are comparing apples and pears there...
No, I think that there should be some form of "evidence" to support the assertion.
Such as a unwillingness to abide by UN resolutions to disarm, whilst suggesting that your enemy is the US. Sound familiar?
The same trick can be played again and again. Pick a country whose leaders aren't dancing to your tune, claim they have links to terrorism and WMDs and are an immediate threat, invade them, and by the time it becomes clear that it wasn't the case your puppet regime will be in place and the world will be too scared to attempt to prosecute G. W. Bush for war crimes. Back of the net!
And then it's the little matter of double standards, with one country in breach of endless UN resolutions, in possession of illegal WMDs of all sorts and in constant breach of human rights that not only is allowed to continue its ways but actually receives constant military and political aid by that great preserver of peace and freedom, the US.
23rd Century historians will no doubt struggle to explain not why the US government behaved this way but how on earth some people attempted to justify its actions.
My read on America right now is not to take the chance that a threat might not happen. We're also getting a lot of advice from Sharone who believes being offensive keeps you safer than being defensive. I don't know if that's true...but I know even the cops in NYC are alerted when something is going on in Israel. They believe there's a connection. I don't know if that's true either.
That would explain a few things.
You mean as they watched their countries turn to glass parking lots?
What you're really pissed off about is that there isn't anything you can do about it, isn't it?
Don't you think that is fair?
Why, had he disarmed then? Was he in full compliance with UNSC Resolutions? Had he never threatened the US?
BTW Not believing in force in politics if why you end up with people like Franco. At least your countryment fought back...
Which category do you think the war on Iraq falls into?
Answer:
Unless you believe that the WTC isn't on the US mainland, or that Iraq has never threatened US lives, even that of the previous President Bush, or maybe you don't think that Iraqis an Kurds have been massacred...?
And do you think that plans to carry out an assassination on a former politician justify waging war on another country?
As for massacring others, I presume you believe that we should go to war against every single country where serious human rights abuses have been committed. I don't agree with that policy although I understand perfectly the reasons behind it. Pity the governments behind the war on Iraq don't share your feelings, preferring to ignore or even actively trade with many a country with appalling human rights records for as long as they can profit from it.
No, I'm linking him with terrorism.
Er, yes. It's an act of war. That simple. BTW Former Head of State, not just a politician
No, I think we should do everything we can to remove those regimes. If that ultimately means war, then fine. I'd prefer not to have to go down that route though.
And I don't expect my Govt to agree with me all the time. It just means that I have something to criticise them for, to work against. If I agreed with them life would be so dull...
Aladdin, I'm not saying the poles are right...but in the US, people do believe there's a link...I read, especially in the Mid West. Less in the West and even less in NYC and the East Coast.
N KOREA TO SUSPEND NUCLEAR PROGRAMME
North Korea has offered to suspend its nuclear programme at talks with the United States, Chinese officials have told Western diplomats.
Pyongyang also offered to suspend ballistic missile tests, halt missile exports and allow in nuclear inspectors.
Sounds like the Chinese brought their big stick to the talks...
Publicly, that'll probably be the the story as they can't be seen to give in to the US
North Korea hasn't shown any sense in any negotiations with the United States in 50 years. Yeah, I think the Chinese decided to take sides, and made it very, very clear to the North Koreans what the consequences could be if they didn't do what was required. Don't think the Chinese need any more disruption of their economy, and they sure don't want nuclear explosions near their northern territories.
Totally Agree, but don't you think the threat from the US had any effect on the NK loonies?
- It has WMD.
- It is a breakaway piece of a country.
- It is led by a bunch of suicidal wackos rather than impressionable bully's.
- It poses a clear WMD threat to neighbouring countries (S Korea, Japan etc)
- It expelled the IAEA inspectors.
Why did the Cheney and co. plump for Iraq? Easier target?