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The Russian and French connections...

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru


In the past few days, the Axis of Weasel has been caught supplying weapons and support for the maniac in Baghdad. Our Russian friend, Vladimir Putin has been caught red-handed supplying weapons to Iraq.

U.S. State Department sources confirmed that Russia had indeed sold a wide variety of banned arms to Iraq as recently as one or two days before the allies struck. The Russian equipment included a variety of night vision gear, GPS jamming equipment - included software and Russian engineers who have continued to work inside Baghdad - and a number of AT-14 Kornet anti-tank missiles.

The Russian AT-14 missiles are advanced, laser guided, weapons and are considered very dangerous. But, the U.S. Air Force noted that the Russian jamming equipment is not very effective. The main problem with the Russian GPS jamming equipment is that it is also a radio transmitter, literally saying, "bomb me". According to U.S.A.F. Major General Victor Renuart, allied air forces have targeted several of the Russian GPS jammers and actually struck one with a U.S. JDAM GPS guided bomb.

The U.S. has issued a formal demand to Moscow to stop the sales and explain. Moscow has issued several lame excuses that they have no control over arms companies based inside Russia.


Saddam Hussein rose to power backed by Russian weapons and Russian money. Saddam still owes Moscow over $8 billion for the arms he purchased from Russia. The primary Iraqi chemical weapons are VX nerve gas and mustard gas, a blistering agent, both obtained from Russia.

Interestingly, some sources still claim that the source of Iraqi chemical weaponry is the U.S.A. These sources claim that during the mid-1980s the U.S. transferred chemical weapons technology to Iraq.

I find this information incorrect and totally out of line with the current Iraqi weapon inventory. Iraq chemical weapons have previously been deployed on classic Russian made systems.

According to "Russian Military Power" published in 1982, "It is known that the Soviets maintain stocks of CW (chemical weapons) agents." The two primary Russian chemical weapons in the 1982 Soviet inventory were the nerve agent "VX" and "blistering agents - developments of mustard gas used so effectively in World War I."

Iraq obtained Russian delivery systems and the same inventory of Russian made chemical weapons at the same time. The fact is that U.S. made chemical weapons might not work when loaded into Russian made systems.

Iraqi SU-22 Fitter attack jets have been armed with Warsaw Pact designed bombs filled with chemical weapons. Iraq used these Russian jet fighters to drop chemical weapons on Iranian troops during the Iran/Iraq war. Iraq tried to use these SU-22 jets during the 1991 Gulf war and was foiled by the allied air superiority.

Other Russian weapons found with chemical weapons include the FROG-7 missile, 122mm rockets, 152mm artillery and the M-1937 82mm mortars. Curiously, all the Iraqi artillery missiles, rockets, shells and mortar rounds, filled with chemical weapons are of Russian design.

The only exception to the Russian connection is the recent attempts by Iraq to modify its force of French made Mirage F-1 jets to carry chemical weapons. The State Department has a wonderful video of an Iraqi Mirage jet testing a chemical weapons sprayer.

For those who still remain skeptical, take note that one does not modify a multi-million dollar fighter jet to spray French perfume. The Vichy government of Jacques Chirac may deny the arms sales to Baghdad but the weapons in Iraqi hands show that Paris and Moscow have sent more to Saddam than Perrier and Russian vodka.


  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm fuming.:mad:

    People used to go to wars because of such deals/alliances. We knocked out the 6 GPS. Henry Kissenger said after the war, when cool heads prevail, America has to rethink its alliances. I think for starters we need to pull out of NATO. Redeploy troops to Poland and Bulgaria. Pull troops out of South Korea.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Did you read that PNJ?

    It states that soem of those weapons were 'Warsaw pact made'

    So if you are going to critiscise the Soviets (not the Russians as that article persists in calling them in relevance to many of the previous deals) then you should also be angry towards them.....

    I find the 'excuse' that the central govt does not have full control over their companies perfectly plausible. Russia is a huge and chaotic country.....

    Also the French company that makes the Mirage jets denies they sold anything, this article appears to be based largely on opinion.....
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru
    and delusional blindness to the fact that the US did arm Saddam with Chmical weaponry during the Iran-Iraq war regardless of how much globe and his slanted press wish to deny it. Its all a matter of public record.

    Not that narrow minded flag wavers have any interest in holding Washington accountable for anything its ever done wrong, theyre to busy tuning in to to their daily dose of brain numbing right wing propaganda whilst the corporate elites are laughing all the way to the bank.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,324 The Mix Honorary Guru

    Proof my good man! Proof! Just because you repeat a charge it does not become true! There are no hard facts just suppositions!
    Thioglycol is used for many industrial purposes!

    French and Russian make for two excellent choices for salad dressing!;) :D
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