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What do you think of the 1,000? Iranians and Mid-Eastern men arrested in LA today?
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You can look up the story on Yahoo USA. But basically, the Immigration and Naturalzation service in the US arrested around 1,000 people who they say violated their student visas etc. from the LA area. The LA area has 600,000 or so Iranian Americans.
Is this smart knowing how the terrororists of 9/11 were in the US before they acted. Or is this illegal or at least unAmerican? (Our laws in the US are based on English law. So you can voice an opinion without knowing American law. I don't even know it yet. That's college stuff.)
Is this smart knowing how the terrororists of 9/11 were in the US before they acted. Or is this illegal or at least unAmerican? (Our laws in the US are based on English law. So you can voice an opinion without knowing American law. I don't even know it yet. That's college stuff.)
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Earlier I posted a link to a story that was recently reported by the BBC about an Algerian man whom the US administration insisted had been part of the planning of 9/11 and who's life (and that of his wife and his brother) has been ruined by the allegations even though it eventually emerged that no sufficient proof existed and he was released from custody in the UK. This is just one example of what I have every reason to believe is not a matter of isolated incidents but of sweeping finger pointing and blacklisting now given free sanction under both the USA Patriot Act and the Dept. of Homeland Defence. As regards the Algerian man, Lofti Raissi, even after he was released by British authorities, the US admin has continued to demand his extradition but now on ridiculous lesser charges that only show how hungry for total control this administration is.
Basically our government has betrayed the Constitution upon which our society, which Bush loves to claim is the bastion of freedom and democracy, is based. What we are becoming in a tangibly visible sense is a Soviet styled controlled society where foreigners had best stay away since they will be screened and profiled to the full extent of a discriminate administration.
Sadly though, it only begins with foreigners and unless our society wakes and recognizes soon the abuse of power, it could easily be any one of us that gets singled out and accused without proof and without any means to defend ourselves.
And Bush claims that we are winning the WoT??? By his own actions we lost it already and not to some shadowy enemy but to those entrusted to represent and serve our nation. They are they only winners to date and they are no doubt enjoying every minute of it.
Exactly, I just hope they are right about who they are picking up. Towards 1,000 people is an awful lot of people.
You might try looking at how closely this current government witchhunt resembles what we did to Japanese Americans during WWII.
I only wonder how many decent people will be interred or deported and otherwise have their once peaceful lives destroyed before the nation wakes up and throws this fascist regime out of office.
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I mean, one of the places that was going to be hit, someone on the site posted they were going for new years. Hog something up in scotland.
Im a bit confused about this as im not too up on US immigration laws..
Now, personally I dont see the arrest of those in breach of their visas as an issue. Thats just the INS doing their job.
What I do find a little uncomfortable is the registration of those who are legally in the country, those with valid visas....Surely they are registered when they origianlly enter the country anyway? I cant actually see a point to register them again, unless more info is being gathered on them or they just want to check up on these people.
I dont think its fair to compare to the Japanese internment camps, that was far worse. They were US citizens who had done absolutely nothing wrong, those arrested in this situation are criminals.
After all, then it was Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, even catholics that had to be registered. After they were registered and known, it was only a small step to rounding them up and dealing with them all the claimed interest of " protecting society".
Sorry pal, play the devil's advocate all you want, I don't buy into the value of this at all.
If its such a step toward protection and security then why only a select group of nationalities who are being checked for visa status? Why not illegal Israelis, or British, or any host of nationalities.
After all, didnt you argue some time back that not all terrorists or potential terrorists are of Arabic persuasion?
Also, on the subject of the deportations, I just want to know how tough the US has been at cracking down on ALL illegal immigrants. I wonder, if they really tried, how many illegal Mexican immigrants they could find and oust if an illusive band of extremist Mexican nationals were trying to, say, take Texas back from the U.S. through some kind of zany terrorist scheme.
Still no indictments from the Enron scandal, no anthrax mailer arrest, no blanket mandate for foreign visitor/resident registrations from all countries. Its all part of the same tendency this administration has been showing all along. Racism, xenophobia, and the beginnings of a control state.
And Greeny and his crew fighting to to protect these politicians' corrupt foreign interests. How appropriate! :rolleyes:
because of bush and his cronies the world is becoming very very dangerous.
Hopefully the next President will start with a full scale investigation into the coverups and treachery of this administration and show the American the turth that Bush and Co. are working so deligiently to hide with their boogeyman rhetoric and the collusion of the media.
Maybe then itll be them facing life imprisonment or worse for treason.
Its gonna be serious work to reinstate the supremacy of the Constitution over the paranoid control aparatus that Bush has sent to do as it pleases in society. Sad times indeed!