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i suppose before we should accept some responsibility we should set a date/cut off point. May i suggest the 'glorious revolution' of 1689 that ousted James 2nd and brought over the house of Orange.
Though note, the attitudes we subscribe to today were only really the most common social attitudes since the mid-late 1960's
Glencoe Massacare. A demonstration for the benifit of those rebellious scots. Many escaped because british soldiers ashamed of their orders crypticly advised the locals to not be around on the planned day of the massacare.
Various attrocities committed in Ireland, i'm thinking particularly of Vinigar hill. The potato famine etc.
going round the world and generaly saying 'nice country, we'll take it'!
Whilst the british are accused of inventing the concerntation camp, the spanish beat us to it in Cuba by about 50 years. Again many more would have been rounded up, and quicker if not for some soldiers acting out of shame for what they were ordered to do giving advanced warning to some of the boers. Note some 26-27000 died in those camps through mis-administration out of an estimated population of some 100,000 (ie about 1 in 4 died)
Also the camps were in operation in tasmania in an effort to 're-educate' the local aboriginals. The last pure blood died in 1904, so we can chalk up a true genocide to our list of crimes.
Enough to get you going?
Were you there, Steelgate? A friend of mine was, and although he HATES what the British have done in Ireland, he doesn't agree with what you have stated here.
There was even a film made recently about Bloody Sunday and a recent official investigation into the incident by the Home Office which concluded that the paras acted totally wrongly!
That event which occured on the 30th of January was nothing more than cold blooded murder! The paras tried to claim that they came under fire from the crowd but this was a complete lie. In the hundreds of photographs of the event only one gunman was spotted who was several hundred yards away by a block of flats and not part of the demonstration at all. It is also thought that he was a loyalist gunman aswell.
No shots at all were fired at the paras from the crowd of demonstrators that is a well documented fact. The paras had no reason at all to open fire!
Here is the website on the events of Bloody Sunday.
Gee...well everything on TV is the truth, huh? :rolleyes:
Obviously not the same footage that the rest of the country has seen then.
None of the victims were found to be armed after the event. This does not mean that none of them had been armed earlier in the day
Do you have any proof of that, or are you just relying on what you have read in the socialist propaganda?
Not that it was biased, noting that there was zero input from the Paras or the British Govt and it was therefore written purely from the POV of the protestors
Did it? I must have missed that. Can you point me to that report...
Whereas the protestors didn't. The IRA sympathisers didn't and naturally the IRA wouldn't have influenced any statements now would they?
Sorry, but didn't you just say that there was no gunmen there. Haven't you just contradicted yourself?
Naturally you would claim, without any evidence, that this person was a loyalist. It wouldn't fit your biased approch to assume that this person may have been IRA.
Facts cannot be disputed, This is still open to dispute.
The lastest inquiry in the Bloody Sunday massacre found that the paras had acted entirley wrongly! What happened on that day was nothing short of a massacre of innocent people!:mad: :mad: :mad:
For someone so happy to provide links for most things, he seems to be struggling with this.
Let me help you Steelgate.
There have been TWO inquiries. One, the first, made no such allegation and backed what the soldiers said. Naturally this hasn't found favour with the socialists or the IRA (note same political allegiances), and so a second was ordered. This is still underway and hasn't yet reported...ar least not to my knowledge.