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  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @toffuna101 Night friend. Thank you for supporting everybody on here today, and remember to be kind to yourself. <3
  • toffuna101toffuna101 Posts: 2,473 Boards Champion
    @toffuna101 Night friend. Thank you for supporting everybody on here today, and remember to be kind to yourself. <3

    no problem, i will. @DonnerKebab <3
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    @DonnerKebab its just hard when everything is defined by my past, my school years were defined by that and my life has just been floored by it all, it was okay until one day I’d found my abuse articles online and then everything caved.

    What happened to you was definitely far from your fault, it was so wrong what happened to you, no one should sell a child ever
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 Like you, i struggled with blaming myself. I masked some it with humour, joked i could have gone for at least a bottle of co op brand whiskey instead of the £2 white lightning cider. But the truth is, i struggled and saw myself as partly to blame. And as for the rest of my life, i had my life defined from 11 as a full time carer for my severely autistic brother. Dad was abusive but walked out when i was very young around the time my brother got diagnosed, died in 2023 and wrote me out the £100K will. It was brutal. no childhood, and no teenage years. Just always something else to add onto the shit show.
    Then a whole string of my primary school, secondary school, college and social care system being utter wankers and denying me support outright, and even actively going against me, my grades going from best to worst over several years steadily decreasing with nobody giving a shit, and that feeling of i'm the common denominator became overwhelming. Add in depression, health anxiety so bad it caused me to wash my hands until they bled, and a complete lack of socialising outright, never having the chance to make one friend, it becomes so much. Add in my current position of getting a Stem degree yet finding the job market about as lively as a Dodo, and it gets worse.

    So i think i understand a lot of what your feeling, and the rock bottom feeling you had, because my life has been a shit show to, and i've been in the same place. Perhaps not the same, but simular. When i was 17 i snapped into madness with anxiety and paranoia and then 19 fully, with a case of SH, though it was experimental in nature. That's why I've been trying to get across as much as i can to you that none of it was your fault, you didn't deserve any of it, and why you are a special person for still being so kind after all of what you've been through. Balming yourself is where i was at rock bottom too, being unable to think of myself of being worthy of being cared about.

    You've been through hell too, are in a similar rock bottom place mentally, and deserve the world of kindness. And thinking you don't is exactly how i was at 19. I'm still working through it now, but yeah. It hurts to see somebody as kind as you struggling with it also. But the rock bottom isn't the end of the road, it did get slightly better and manageable for me. That's most of what i've been through. Sorry, i really have just dumped a lot haven't I?
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    Sending you so many hugs @DonnerKebab how are you so amazing fr like despite the shit you’ve been though you come on here supporting others daily like damn how do you do that. I try that and someday I come across rude as fuck to everyone just to push people away I know that’s so stupid.

    I care about you so much and I’m so proud of you 💕

    I’m on a 6 year waitlist for CAT for the trauma I’ve been through and I know things will get better after that when I can actually process it all but like fuck it’s hard some days I wish to just scream and wrip my brain and heart out, maybe you can relate to that?
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    edited June 7
    @Rose113 I wanted to be fully open and honest about everything because quite honestly, you being open about your past trauma inspired me to be open about mine, so thank you. I just wanted to get across that i've been in a similar place to you with it all at rock bottom, which is why i want to just let you know that there is light on the other side.

    And yeah, 100%, days when it's hard as fuck to deal with it all. I flip between anger and rage which scares me a bit, and just surrendering and not giving a shit anymore about anything. And the fact is, i've only been here a month. You've been here longer and have been helping people a lot more and a lot longer than me. Give yourself some credit, cause you are far more helpful and supportive to others than i've been. You are the amazing one here, which is why i always make sure to point out just how much you deserve better and keep trying to get through that none of it was ever your fault for others failing you. And about you trying to come here supporting others, you do amazingly at it. I have never once thought your coming across as rude or pushing people away. Besides, there's no rulebook for trauma is there?

    As for therapy, i have an assessment coming up in a few months hopefully, and maybe they'll put me on a waitlist for CAT. By the sounds of it, i can expect to get in around the time i reach pension age in my 70's lol. But no, your way to kind about me. I care about you and am proud of you too, cause again, you are a kind and special person who deserves all the love and care in the world. I just wish you'd see that sometimes.
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    @DonnerKebab awww 🫠 normally I don’t open up about what happened much as I’ve never found someone I really trust till now.

    I think I’m gonna make a separate post about it but honestly i can be so rude and in the worst headspace on days like that some days i just wish i could scream to the staff to kick me off the mix

    Before your assessment please read up about EMDR as I was due for that but honestly if I agreed to that I think it would of floored me completely it sounds like an awful therapy but they tried to convince to do it, so please please read up on it incase they mention it 💕
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 Thanks for the heads up about it. i'll give it a read. See, you can't stop helping people even now lol. That's 100% you. And don't worry about being rude. After dealing with a load of trauma, i think being a little rude here and there is your right lol.
    But yeah, it's why i'm quite stubborn trying to get across to you that being at rock bottom after so much trauma isn't the end of the road and there's still light at the end of the tunnel no matter how hopeless you feel. Sending you a virtual hug right now cause i think you need one. <3
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    Thank you @DonnerKebab i think I’ll take your advice on and try to accept that it’s not my fault
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 It's a lot harder than just saying it. It's a battle to accept it as well. I'm proud of you for trying. And again, thank you. Your an awesome person.
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    Urges are bad
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 I'm here to talk if you want. I might not be able to make the urges go away, but i can give you digital company through it all if you'd like.
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    I’ve just messaged my old kooth worker but think I disclosed to many bad things so fuck my life 🫠 my mind is racing tonight tbh @DonnerKebab
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 if you disclosed you were at risk at all of SH or had a plan for it, they might just have to flag it to check up on you, but otherwise, i think they'll try and just get in contact, offer you support, and address the deeper issues you may have been to hesitant to disclose the first time around with them.
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    @DonnerKebab i know she won’t call the police or anything like that however though she does have contact with Emma from college and also knows my full name etc and what college I go to and I know she can tell Emma what is going on which is hard but I suppose it’s okay ish just nerve wracking but also I have this urge to pour my heart out to her in a message even more
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 It's because none of them are doing this maliciously or are against you. They truly want to help you, and this is a chance to get that help possibly. It's scary. very scary, and having been failed by so many system's, i get why you'd hesitate to get that help, but it is possibly a chance that they might be able to help you properly, and offer you support you deserve. I think, and forgive me if i'm speaking out of term, but that urge to reach out is a part of you that wants to try again and take that chance to get that help and the part that doesn't want to is scared that you'll be failed again.

    Whatever you pick, i'm still proud of you, we all are, nothing will change that, but i would recommend that you should write that message, and get that help. If nothing comes of it, nothing comes of it. That's the worst case scenario, but the best case is they can offer you so much more assistance and support.
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    It just terrifies me that I’m constantly failing Emma, lately I’ve shut myself off from her because I don’t want the last 3 weeks with her to be her having to deal with my suicidal thoughts but honestly it’s so hard when I want to just scream how much I want things to be done to her.

    I don’t want to dump everything on my old kooth worker, we was meant to have a 3 months break but I only survived 2 then sent her a stupid crisis message like what is wrong with me :( I’m just so tired of everything
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 Nothing is wrong with you, and there is nothing stupid or wrong with sending a crisis message. They still will want to help you. That break is probably just timetabling or scheduling, and seeing how you fared without them. That you made it for 2 months is impressive. You just need a little bit more of a helping hand with it is all, and there's nothing to be ashamed of about that.

    And your not failing Emma at all. She's there to help you, and support you. Bottling it all up, it hurts you over time, and isn't healthy for you, and will just materialise as other stuff down like line like worse SH urges potentially. Again, i'm not an expert so don't quote me on it at all. But she'd want to help listen to you vent and offer what support she can by the sounds of it because i think she genuinely cares about you. if i were you, i'd use these last weeks with her to get as much help and support from her as possible.

    Your not stupid or wrong. You are braver than i was when I was at rock bottom.
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    I’m just really afraid to be loosing Emma I grow attached to people and when I know I’ll have to part I have to start pushing people away. The joys of having an attachment disorder 🥲
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 has Emma ever met anybody with attachment disorder before?

    I know that goodbyes with people for those with attachment disorders are tough, but now is the time to get that support and care that you need, if only to vent once. I'm certain that Emma will have gotten to know you enough to know when your not being you and pushing people away, I assume as a defence mechanism. I think she would understand if you tried to start pushing her away, and might be able to help you despite it. It might be worth a try. What's the worst that could happen?
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    I’m not sure @DonnerKebab I mean she knows I have one and some days she will like be stern with me when she knows I’m trying to push her away she put me on daily check in and I started to avoid and avoid and yeah I’m just scared of loosing her but fuck I hate that college so much
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 but at least you know she does care enough to take measures to try and still help you when your pushing her away, which suggests she does know enough about your habit of trying to push people away to try and find ways to mitigate it. That's somebody who cares about you. And what i mean is that this sounds like the best person to reach out to fully, because she can handle your attempts to push her away and still persist trying to help you. That's the kind of support you need i think in person.

    The good news is you won't have to deal with that college anymore soon. And you never know. Emma might still try reaching out to you from time to time if she's concerned about your wellbeing. If your open and honest, in these last weeks instead of acting like things are fine when they aren't in front of her, then she will almost certainly offer some support in that way. But pretending things are okay might give her the wrong message that things are smooth sailing. maybe i'm wrong, but it's worth being honest with her.
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    Im gonna explode 🫠
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 because of the stuff with disclosing a lot to the old kooth worker?
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 Or is it the sleep issues and just generally everything?
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    I haven’t started on another message to them yet 🥲 I’m just lay here in floods of tears @DonnerKebab
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 well, i'm here to vent to if you want. I know everything can become totally overwhelming and when your at rock bottom, it's hard to see any light at the end of the tunnel sometimes, and it can feel futile and pointless. That's how i was too.

    On a separate note, can i ask if you managed to get something eat today? Even just a small bite at some point?
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    I saw on TikTok where people use go compare to see how much they have cost the nhs and I just did it and damn it’s so high
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    @DonnerKebab i ate a tiny bit
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • Rose113Rose113 Community Connector Posts: 3,763 Community Veteran
    Why the fuck have the doctors put pictures of my self harm on my fucking records fuck 😭
    Sometimes when the people most like you don't love you, it is a hurt that can cause the greatest pain, and this pain can lead you to hate everything.
  • DonnerKebabDonnerKebab Posts: 283 The Mix Regular
    @Rose113 I'm glad to hear you managed to get a little nibble of something. Something beats nothing. proud of you.

    Now about the NHS, the fact is, we have a tax rate that nears 60% in real terms for some people. We are taxed heavily. The least they can do is provide some decent healthcare per person. It's there to be used by everybody when needed. If we were going of how the US do it, only the wealthy could get basic healthcare and the poor wouldn't be able to. The fact is, you deserve healthcare just as much as the next. What you have are serious issues that need addressing. Sure it's not a surgery or an operation of some kind. But it's still medical issues that you are entitled to get sorted. The elderly cost the most, those with illnesses cost the most. I mean, we wouldn't complain about the health costs of a cancer patient vs what they put into the system, just as we wouldn't complain about somebody with medical issues like you accessing healthcare that is paid for with taxes you earn and pay over your lifetime. That's just how it works. Nothing to be ashamed of needing help. And if we were going of only take out what you put in, the average UK citizen is a net loss on the UK governments finances. So please don't feel bad.
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