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Prolife, Anti-abortion - the same thing?
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I can't remember who brought this up on the other thread, but it got me thinking: do you think that being Pro-life is the same thing as being Anti-abortion?
I may just be having problems with definitions with everything, but I don't really know much about this!
Or could it also be said that Pro-choice and Pro-abortion are two identical things?
I really need to get educated on this! Or are the groups defined by religious beliefs or something like that?
I don't want to get into a major debate over abortion being right or wrong I was just wondering if I could get a bit of clarification on the issue.
I may just be having problems with definitions with everything, but I don't really know much about this!
Or could it also be said that Pro-choice and Pro-abortion are two identical things?
I really need to get educated on this! Or are the groups defined by religious beliefs or something like that?
I don't want to get into a major debate over abortion being right or wrong I was just wondering if I could get a bit of clarification on the issue.
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Exactly..
I get lumped in with 'pro-lifers' when i tell people im anti-abortion and they just write me off as a nutjob as soon as i say it..
I dont class a fetus as a 'life' and its continuation onto life isnt of much importance to me so im not pro life...
I don't know if Pro choice and Pro abortion are the same thing.
A person could be pro choice for others but not pro abortion for themselves.
I think when the expression PRO LIFE is used it is generally to descripe fundamentalists (Often religioous) people who are part of an organisation who want to take the choice away from others.
Am I making sense.
To personalise it I would not like the choice to be taken away from me but I respect someone who decides its not for them. What I don't like is when people set up groups to limit the freedom of choice of others. Although they may argue they are representing the unborn child who has no voice to speak with.
It's a terrible circle usually mixed up with religion and religious morals.
This would be me.
I believe that the choice should be offered (although restricted), however I do not believe that I could encourage anyone to have an abortion. That is my choice.
but are not willing to face up to the social consequences
Which is when we get to the crux of the problem. Forcing their own religious beliefs on others.
Read this place that No Doubt got asked to play at this pro-choice thingy... So they perform, and at the end of a song, Gwen says that it's great that they are there, that it's a fine night etc. and also says, that it's cool that they have their opinion but personally, she wouldn't be able to go through an abortion. So you can imagine the looks and boo's she got.
At the end when people asked her why she said, what she said, she answers, "well, this is pro-choice, I just aired the choice I would make"...
Pro choice want people to make up their own minds, Pro Life want to make it up for you!!
I think their argument is how much choice does the kid get if its aborted.
The kid doesn't get a choice if it's given birth to either. It's impossible to give a foetus a choice.
- however, mostly this is fueled by a religious belief and they refuse to see that many people do not share their belief in religion and so in the eyes of those who want 'choice' their pro-life argument is invalid.
So do you think that pro-life is more concerned with religion, and people who are 'anti-abortion' are the sort of non-believers? edited to say oops cos you said something similar in a few posts above
Ie the people who kill doctors in America for carrying out abortions are usually hiding behind both a pro-life and a religious cause.
I also think that a lot of people who have been brought up with strong religious belief (And guilt) do find it hard to take a pro Choice stance because of what they are taught about the sacredness of life.
Thats all I meant.
I think that had I, for example, been taught in a catholic school while living in Ireland then perhaps my choices about abortion would have been influenced by my faith.
However I do understand that there are people out there who use the term Pro life in a purely medical, and not religious, way.
Being pro-choice yourself, that figures.
Im sure some people refer to pro-choicers at pro-death/pro-murder etc etc..
Saying anti-choice is attaching a stigma to their point of view before even getting to the reasons.
To have a child that is dearly wanted, is a wonderful thing, but an unwanted pregnancy is a totally different scenario and I have experience of both.
I think if Jesus was alive today, he would not be campaining at the front of a clinic, but loving those who were coming out of the back door.
No he wouldn't.
He'd be in the nut house with everyone else who claims to be the son of God