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The ongoing plebgate saga
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So a while back [september] we had plebgate where Andrew Mitchell was accused of swearing at police and calling them f**king plebs. This original story kind of went on far longer than I thought it should have. I thought it valid that the police were concerned about govt perceptions and trust in police, but the subsequent use of "I'm a pleb" T-shirt outside the Tory conference in mass numbers, was literally trying to make the situation bigger than Ben hur.
It now seems that we have gategate, information is being revealed that suggests a member of the public who witnessed the incident, turns out may be a police officer and not actually at the scene at the time. The emerging footage seems to cast doubts over the official police log and the email sent by the member of the public [believed to be a police officer]. The email is also reported to have been sent before the police log was widely published, leading some to believe there has been some level of covert collusion.
I raise this point not in a smaller point of discussion on whether the government can be trusted or not, whether you like the austerity cuts or not; I'm looking into the wider issue of public perception in police.
Over a year ago we saw widespread rioting in London, where the perception of the rule of law was at least temporarily skewed by apparent mass hysteria. Along with such recent issues as the quashing of inquest verdicts at Hillsborough, cover ups of information surrounding the death of an individual during the G20 protests, the shooting of a man on a tube train and this recent issues of aspects of the police attempting to undermine a cabinet minister; is public trust in the police force as an institution ebbing away?
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It now seems that we have gategate, information is being revealed that suggests a member of the public who witnessed the incident, turns out may be a police officer and not actually at the scene at the time. The emerging footage seems to cast doubts over the official police log and the email sent by the member of the public [believed to be a police officer]. The email is also reported to have been sent before the police log was widely published, leading some to believe there has been some level of covert collusion.
I raise this point not in a smaller point of discussion on whether the government can be trusted or not, whether you like the austerity cuts or not; I'm looking into the wider issue of public perception in police.
Over a year ago we saw widespread rioting in London, where the perception of the rule of law was at least temporarily skewed by apparent mass hysteria. Along with such recent issues as the quashing of inquest verdicts at Hillsborough, cover ups of information surrounding the death of an individual during the G20 protests, the shooting of a man on a tube train and this recent issues of aspects of the police attempting to undermine a cabinet minister; is public trust in the police force as an institution ebbing away?
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I love how so many people still think that the police always tell the truth.
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