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I think if you look at history, you'll realise that both religions have an equally bad record of pushing their views on the rest of the population whenever they're in power. The difference is that currently, plenty of countries are under Islamic rule, and none are under Christian rule. Don't let that fool you though, because even in the constitutionally secular America, the Christian majority will take any opportunity to push their religious views on the population at large. Just two examples are stem cell research and the government support of abstinance programs in Africa (and I wonder how much suffering those two votes have caused). The only difference between Christianity and Islam is that Islam has power in certain countries at the moment, whereas Christianity doesn't. Don't mistake modern secular democracies as a representation of modern Christianity, because they have come into being despite Christianity, not because of it. We only have to go back to the 1980's to witness the last time the Catholic church had power in a European country, for example, and it wasn't pretty.
Incidentally, the muslim equivalent of a modern secular democracy is Turkey, which is a fairly nice place as far as I can tell (at least as tolerant as equivalently developed nations in Europe).
I dare because that is the behaviour I see. You are correct there are some victims of terrorism in this country. More victims of Irish terrorism than any carried out by muslims.
Think about it.
Actually someone is saying that we should treat muslims differently because "they all read from the same book"...
I f you want to bring that up in the relevant threa I will be happy to point out that a society can be racist but that doesn't mean that everyone in it is... the laws, the actions of a Govt all play a part in the society....
Has he applied for benefit for his second wife then?
So, you want me to accept that you are predjudiced against muslims in this country because of what a small number of their fellow followers have done or said overseas.
Sorry, never gonna happen.
My point exactly. It doesn't matter what he said because he's not claiming benefit is he - given that this thread is about a news story designed to increase the hostility towards muslims..
Why would anyone want to increase hostility towards Muslims? What could be the possible reasons why anyone would want to increase hostility towards Muslims? Please list a few reasons...
OR, could it be that people just don't want certain Islamic values and customs creeping into this society?
MOK, remember that to the outside world, I am a Muslim myself. Do you think I would want to help in increasing hostility towards myself?
I have never known someone to be so ignorant and oblivious, yet so smug.
Of course I do, it more the opposite. You don't seem to understand that all the news stories, like this one all thehype abouy things like the link are demonising muslims.
This story is just another example of that, which was my whole point in the first place.
The truth of this story is that people with multiple spuses will not be able to claim benefits for each as spouse and not individuals. This means that they will get less.
The story suggests that opposite and links diffectly to those of muslim faith - thus it is designed to demonise in the eyes of people, like you, who think that every muslims "reads from the same book" and therefopre should be feared or treated like scum.
You mention terrorism and then ignore the fact that more people in the UK have been victims of Irish terrorism but funnily enough you don't suggest that the public at large should fear the Irish...
Well er actually we have, as I mentioned above.
Or could it be, as I mentioned before, that every Govt needs a "bogeyman" so that they can exert control over the population. It's a basic tenet of power and I defy you to show me one state where that doesn't happen.
FFS I listed examples earlier... but look right now, how many states demonise jews, how many demonise arabs, how many demonise "the west", pakistan has india, venezuela has the US... the list is endless...
Clearly you have never used a mirror then.
Actually the majority are inspired by how they percieve we treat them like second class citizens.
No dude, it's your argument that is fucking stupid for the very reason you highlight in that comment.
You are not a threat, neither are the vast majority of muslims and yet you seem to think that because some are that means that it is okay to demonise all.
You mean apart from the right to protest being removed, CCTV, a push for ID cards, the fact that you can be arrested and put in prison without charge, house arrest, your e-mails being read by MI5, your phone tapped... all laws created in the name of "anti-terrorism" and all actually about control.
It has everything to do with your reaction, the way you behave and the way you think it is right that benefits should not be applied fairly for muslims purely because in another country someone of the same faith might be a terrorist.
You don't see those links because your mind is too narrow.
Any more comments on the subject of benefits then?