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Is Rock Music better than Pop Music ??

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited January 2023 in General Chat
You decide ....... i think it is becuase pop's on it's way out .... sorry kids .... and the real music's on the way back !!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think they're both as bad as each other.

    I go to a rock club virtualy every week and it's getting to the point were all band sound the same.

    It's like metal-by-numbers. "Erm, right. If we have erm, loud guitars and erm, a singer that growls like a bear then we'll be dead sucessful."

    I'm getting a little bored of guitar bands anyway. Everyone's starting to sound like everyone else, and it's not interesting anymore.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Can I just point out here that 'Pop' music stands for 'Popular' music, this can go across all boundries (dance/rock/boy-group etc.)

    So 'Pop' music as it were would never go out of fashion unless music did.. which I don't think will happen...

    More to the point I think the argument your trying to bring to surface is that 'Rock' music is coming back in...

    In that argument I'd like to say if we look at the way music such as dance has evolved:

    1980s - Electro-Dance
    1980s - Northern Soul
    1988-91 - Acid House
    1991-93 - Hardcore
    1992-94 - D&Bass / Jungle
    1993-95 - Speed Garage
    1994-97 - Happy Hardcore
    1994-97 - House / Garage
    1998-99 - Trance
    1999-00 - UK Garage
    2000-01 - Hard House
    2001-? - Hard NRG (thats my guess)

    Basically what I'm saying is that music constantly disappears and reinvents itself slightly.. take: Speed Garage > House/Garage > UK Garage
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't think it really matters what music you do, so long as it's original and you're good at it. Which is why Cheesey Pop is so tired, no-one's coming up with anything new and few of them are good at it anyway.

    ~Elvis
    "The meaning of things lies not
    in the things themselves,
    but in our attitude towards them."
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Every generation says the music isn't as good as it used to be and yet the new generation loves it....

    Forget the past and join the future <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    sorry justin, about the definition of pop:

    yes, pop is an abbreviation of popular music. but i also think that pop has now taken on its own genre...the britney/a1 soft beat, nice lyrics sorta thing (u know what i mean).

    and this is the pop that powerslave is talking about.

    and yes, it is shite.

    and yes, it is on the way out.

    and yes, muse do rule.
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    totally turtle. muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse and ash i say!!! (in a weird yorkshire accent that no one understands about from some m8s at school lol)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    the best way to appreciate music is to take it on an act-by-act basis.

    i know it's easy to dismiss a whole genre based on a few acts, but why take the chance on missing something you might like?

    like turtle and robbie williams. robbie can be easily dismissed as pop crap and is by many. but he took the time to listen to it and likes it and appreciates it, and that's really all the counts.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    gfm, you truly are a girl after my own heart! All you have to do is listen to Lamacq to see how much good stuff there is around at the mo (though he IS playing Stereophonics new single as i type <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/frown.gif"&gt; ) like Starsailor, King Adora, Ash & Muse, to name a few. Even within rock and indie there is a lot of guff, like Limp Wristed, the aforementioned 'Phonics and Feeder, but that's the same with every genre.

    [This message has been edited by Zero (edited 14-05-2001).]
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    Girl-From-MarsGirl-From-Mars Posts: 2,822 Boards Guru
    .... i like phonics and feeder! <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/frown.gif"&gt;

    tooooooootally in love with the pumpkins right now tho, specially "lily" <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt; <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Zero:
    gfm, you truly are a girl after my own heart! All you have to do is listen to Lamacq to see how much good stuff there is around at the mo (though he IS playing Stereophonics new single as i type <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/frown.gif"&gt; ) like Starsailor, King Adora, Ash & Muse, to name a few. Even within rock and indie there is a lot of guff, like Limp Wristed, the aforementioned 'Phonics and Feeder, but that's the same with every genre.

    [This message has been edited by Zero (edited 14-05-2001).]

    i think me and emma would agree with most of what u say - muse, ash, starsail, king adora, my vitriol etc are all great.

    however, u didn't win ANY friends by badmouthing phonics and feeder. we both actually do quite like them an awful helluva lot.

    so nah! :P

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Turtle:

    however, u didn't win ANY friends by badmouthing phonics and feeder. we both actually do quite like them an awful helluva lot.

    Yep and I also like the phonics so <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif"&gt; to Zero. I also like Limp Wristed as you refer to them as. I haven't heard much of Feeder's music so I can't really say how good they are but what i have heard seems pretty good <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    a big <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif"&gt; to Zero <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;


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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah ok Justin ...... POPular Music applies to a specific genre, i.e. style ..... rock / metal is not normally defined as being pouplar by the music buying public, but thinga ARE changing in a big way.

    Rock and Metal are more popular than they ever have been, but it's still rock / metal music and NOT pop rock, or pop metal ... that confuses all the little kids who are boyband fans, or Britney fans.

    I agree with you that music cycles around the years and that's just the way it is ... it's a bit like fashions ... it's another trend and it goes through highs an lows.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by jeffrey:
    I go to a rock club virtualy every week and it's getting to the point were all band sound the same.

    It depends which bands you are talking about. If your talking about the likes of Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, Linkin Park, Rage Against the Machine etc then yes they do all sound the same to the untrained ear but there are some talented metal bands out there such as Metallica, Fear Factory, Sepultura and KoRn to name but a few.


    At the end of the day, different people have different tastes and there will never be one band or solo artist that everyone likes so we'll have to put up with the teenie boppers for years to come <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/frown.gif"&gt;

    I'll stick with my rock/metal music <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

    I'm cold, I'm Ugly
    I'm always confused by everything
    I can stare into a thousand eyes
    But every smile hides a bold-faced lie

    Slipknot - 'Diluted'
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Powerslave:


    Rock and Metal are more popular than they ever have been

    Because of the bands like KoRn, Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, Linkin Park etc

    I'm cold, I'm Ugly
    I'm always confused by everything
    I can stare into a thousand eyes
    But every smile hides a bold-faced lie

    Slipknot - 'Diluted'
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    im not even gonna get into this arguement, im sure u all know my opinion by now. plus im to drunk to sit here and type out whatever mosty of u have already said, and what most ppl have said so far anyway. laterz, b4 im sick.......
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Turtle:
    however, u didn't win ANY friends by badmouthing phonics and feeder. we both actually do quite like them an awful helluva lot.

    We all have our likes & dislikes, don't we?! Tastes overlap. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Original Prankster:
    Because of the bands like KoRn, Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, Linkin Park etc


    Why do you think i started the topic??

    No you're partly right.

    These current bands were influenced by other older bands, Iron Maiden, Metallca, Judas Priest to name a few .... without these influences who knows what they'd be doing now, and what their music would sound like.

    So, undoubtedly, you cant say the current revival is due to Papa Roach and all the Nu-Metal crap .... rock is massive and the famous names only play a small part of it.

    How many nu-metal bands will there be in say .. 5 or 10 years time? <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    Bands like Iron Maide, Judas Preist and Metallica are LEGENDARY and will be here forvever .. nu-metal is a subset of pop and it's a current trend that'll will die a death in time. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/biggrin.gif"&gt;

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i know. thats my arguement i just cant be fucked to sit and type it
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