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stalinism was not inherently wrong - here's why
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Too many supposed "moral relativists" say that there are no moral absolutes, and then claim that an action is inherently wrong in any context!
If there are no moral absolutes, then anything goes. These dumbarses need to get out of philosophy, pronto.
Even murder is not inherently wrong! Or racism! Saying they contravene humanity is irrelevant. Please prove why moral absolutes should be based on humanity. A "moral relativist" who says this is a total fool, since he is saying that moral absolutes do not exist AND exist at the same time!!!
If there are no moral absolutes, then anything goes. These dumbarses need to get out of philosophy, pronto.
Even murder is not inherently wrong! Or racism! Saying they contravene humanity is irrelevant. Please prove why moral absolutes should be based on humanity. A "moral relativist" who says this is a total fool, since he is saying that moral absolutes do not exist AND exist at the same time!!!
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But you pull this out of thin air? In what context are you raising a discussion?
"Too many supposed "moral relativists" say that there are no moral absolutes, and then claim that an action is inherently wrong in any context!"
What prompted your statement?
Ok, then give us some links to some web sites so we can see who you are refering to? Who are these 'moral relativists'?
Aren't most threads posted "out of thin air"... or are they all necessarily related to current affairs?
Why don't you either agree, or disagree, or refute, or debate the points he/she was making? Or you can not post in the thread too.
It seems to me he is giving his answer to a question that hasn't been posed so I don't know exactly what he wants to debate.
Who the fuck do you think you are? When did YOU become a moderator? Don't come on this board and cause shit ...
No point in taking this thread off at a tangent even more. I said what I had to say.
And what do you mean about moral absolutes?
I don't believe in moral absolutes in the context of 'good' and 'evil'. It's far more complicated than that. 'Right' and 'wrong' are human concepts after all.
sanitize and I have PM'd .. we're cool.
I thought Steely was long gone....
for anyone who doesn't know, back in the dark days of the site there was a member called Steelgate who advocated the rape of women amongst other things. Do a search for him, charming fellow.
So, what did you see?
Erm, actions that are wrong in any context, be it societal, personal or historical. What else would I mean?!
Yet people here say that racism is inherently wrong and STILL claim that morality is completely relative!!!
Actually, the claim was that right and wrong are human concepts, and if humans can create concepts like right and wrong then they are also capable of knowing that racism is inherently wrong. Most of us don't need to view morals in absolutist terms in order to make moral decisions.
Did you even understand what I wrote?
Stalin did alot right. So did Hitler. But both had thier flaws. Mao the same.
Grasp simple concepts, restructure your argument in some manner that MAKES SENSE, and isn't pointless, and then...
Don't come back.
WTF was this about... besides pointing out something obvious that "right and wrong" and relative concepts. Dear god, I think anyone over 12 realises that.
That and all thank Dearest Comrade Stalin for the glorious triumph of the Soviet People.
Well duh, of course not. So what?