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I don't think I've ever taken E without drinking. It's all part and parcel of the buzz for me. Get drunk, take E's and if you get your hands on any other class A's then that's a bonus. Looking back on it, it's a tad bit stupid but don't regret it one bit.
ok.. but you'll notice my post had fuck all to do with harm reduction.. :thumb:
This is going to make me sound like an old fart, but I dont care - that really depresses me, MDMA by itself is bliss (I'm sure I dont have to add in the usual harm reduction messages) its up there with the most pleasurable experiences you can have, to not know what thats like yet actually use MDMA seems tragic.
its probably just a social thing, you're out at a party and thers a loada drink and smoke (and whatever the fuck else) floatin about you're most very likely to indulge
You'll notice that mine did.
But then I also don't really understand people who take it so regularly (every week...every month). I've taken pills maybe 4 times over a period of 2 or 3 years, taking 2 each time (once 3 but I'm pretty sure one was a dud). All of them were amazing experiences that I'm bloody glad I had. But wanting to repeat the experience indefinately, week in week out :crazyeyes :shocking: I don't know how anyone could even do it.
Its not like I don't have an addictive personality, I smoke a lot and drink a lot: but taking pills so regularly and in such quantity must take a severe toll. I hope some of you guys don't end up regretting it...
n.b. on the subject of comedowns I've never had a problem, in fact I've quite enjoyed them. Maybe thats due to moderation? However one of the times I'm pretty sure I got sold speed rather than E, the comedown from that (only one and a half pills) was the worst thing I've ever experienced - hell on earth. A friend who took 2 (and is smaller than me) ended up in hospital with a chronic panic attack.
Yeah that happened to me. Pill sold as ecstasy, when from what I got told, it was full of speed. I cant stress enough how bad the comedown was. It was hell on earth, fookin horrid! Worst experience I've had an all. I feel ya on that one.
We fuckin' love it though
I think people are responding the way they are to your posts because you don't seem to be using drugs in a responsible or informed way. Obviously that leads to concerns about your health...
I think its one step on from that, its not that he's not informed, its that he chooses to ignore that information regardless of the outcomes.
Maybe but my friends ages range from 25 - 50. When we go out we always carry on the party at someone's house for up to24 hours, so obviously you're going to be taking quite a few to keep the buzz going. Amongst other stuff!
Know what you're saying though, if I go to a rave, it's full of 18 year olds chewing their elbows with their eyes rolled back.
what was the comedown actualy like though? physically bad or mentally?
what i said had nothing to do with harm reduction, thats besides the point, read over it?
i was more arguing about you saying that im not getting an mdma buzz if i bang 10 pills when i sure as fuck know i am
im well aware of how dodgy it is, and im talking from mostly past expierences.. but havin done it many a time it puts me in the position to have a semi useful opinion on the matter.. i cant see how you can sit and say xyz happens if you havent even done it
He is saying that you will still get some sort of effect off that many, its not an mdma high because you have already hit the roof.. it just turns into more of a monged out speedy like high...
Yes that's bad for you, no its not the way mdma is ment to be used and it is pretty pointless really... he was just saying it does still do "something" too you...
Personally if I'm out and about taking them, I usually stick to about 4 or 5 because I like a nice clean high and I like to enjoy the music, but different people have different views about what they want out of a drug.
Your body wants to go to sleep, but your mind cant rest! Imagine youve gone through to 6am, its still dark, everyones pissed off to bed, your lying there, eyes shut for hours an hours, still fully awake, only to realise your not going to fall asleep, not for a long while. I had to sit it out on me todd. I ended up watching 'me myself an irene' the one time, the comedown made it seem the most depessing thing i'd ever seen. "Jim carreys a scitzo!" "the police are after him" "oh no!" "They'll be after me next" The things you think of, honestly. Its truely the worst feeling I've ever experienced. Not to mention i was seriously tripping my nads off during the height of its effect anyway. Evil faces in the windows. The only positive? The sky looked awesome!
I found it mentally damaging more than anything. I felt bad for days. I did it once had a bad time with it, but then decided to give it another go a few months later(2nd chance thing). Same outcome. Not touched em' again since.
Agreed, and I understand this. But... I think it is important to make it crystal that there are evidenced ways using drugs that minimise both the risk and the harm to your mind and body. Every body/situation/drug is different, but at the end of the day taking drugs does pose a risk and does do you harm. If you don't want to minimise it, that is entirely your decision. But it is just plain stupid to deny the risk or to think you are somehow the exception.
That's all I was trying to say, and I mean 'you' in the general sense, I'm not trying to have a go at anyone. Sometimes I just think this needs to be restated.
That's what I'm saying. Cane that many and its not an MDMA type buzz anymore - you've caned all your serotonin.
as for not having decent mdma.. well thats oh so typical for you to come off with eh :thumb: