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I died 4 years ago

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
That was the day I did cocaine for the first time. I have been wasting all of my money on that every weekend for quite some time now. It will be the death of me - either health wise or purely because I end it all as it seems its the only way to stop it contolling me.

Or is it the drink - I only do it when I am drunk - problem is I am drunk very often. I know this sounds like a real down post but I think a lot of people are feeling the same way and just try to carry on with it.

I have tried at times to stop everything and stay in on a Friday night - when I do this I have an overwhelming feeling that I am missing out on the social event of the year. The sad fact is that its not the socialising I miss on a Friday when staying in, it is purely the drugs. I will quite often end up getting drugs delivered to my house near the end of the night during one of my 'strong willed' nights.

Sorry to moan, probably not the cheeriest of posts but has anyone any advice?

I want to be clean - for good but I seem not to be able to as I am unhappy when I'm not getting high and even worse when I have got high.

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    smitherzsmitherz Posts: 968 Part of The Mix Family
    I can sort of relate to you, and as sad as it is the best way is to break off from friends who you do the drugs with and or break off from your dealers. You need to replace going out with another activity because if your going to be sitting at home, it will play on your mind.

    If you feel like this then you need to stop or at least slow it down before it has more of a grip on you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I kind of know how you feel, Cocaine can really bring a person to their knees, I've been there. I'm not clean by any means and to be honest I don't really want to be but I've grown out of the stage of doing stupid amounts of pills, just take the needed amount now and I've severely cut down my Cocaine use.
    If you feel that you can't cut down and you want to be completely clean then Smitherz is right. You have to sever any ties you have to the drug world. Good luck mate.
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    smitherzsmitherz Posts: 968 Part of The Mix Family
    Coke is hard to control for me, if i get hold of 5+ G's i can easily do that in a night. Its scary actually not knowing where my limit is. I had a bit of a phase where i would score at every opportunity but now im replacing drug nights with other activitys like keeping my self fit at the gym, so i have a goal to work towards. I mostly think of drugs when im bored so the cure for me is to keep myself occupied. Although im not totally clean my usage is alot more minimal and its alot less often so it has deffinately helped.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    smitherz wrote:
    Coke is hard to control for me, if i get hold of 5+ G's i can easily do that in a night.

    :yes:

    Little things set me off wanting it, I had a Film Studies exam on the film 'City Of God' (brilliant film) and during the Christmas holidays I was sitting at home watching it and revising but half way through the film I had to stop it and go and score some Coke just because I kept seeing them snorting it in the film. I hadn't touched it in a while before then either.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I do stuff like going down the gym which is cool when it happens and like you say it definatley does help. Problem is I don't want to give up drinking / going out altogether but as soon as I go out I always end up getting something at the end of the night.
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    smitherzsmitherz Posts: 968 Part of The Mix Family
    The one thats really helped me is starting a course of steroids, not only i have something to work for when im at the gym, i have to stay straight so i dont corrupt my diet and i don't add any more stress on my liver from other drugs. So it gives me the determination to stick to my cycle and in the back of my head i know i will have better results if i stay clean.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That was the day I did cocaine for the first time. I have been wasting all of my money on that every weekend for quite some time now. It will be the death of me - either health wise or purely because I end it all as it seems its the only way to stop it contolling me.

    Or is it the drink - I only do it when I am drunk - problem is I am drunk very often. I know this sounds like a real down post but I think a lot of people are feeling the same way and just try to carry on with it.

    I have tried at times to stop everything and stay in on a Friday night - when I do this I have an overwhelming feeling that I am missing out on the social event of the year. The sad fact is that its not the socialising I miss on a Friday when staying in, it is purely the drugs. I will quite often end up getting drugs delivered to my house near the end of the night during one of my 'strong willed' nights.

    Sorry to moan, probably not the cheeriest of posts but has anyone any advice?

    I want to be clean - for good but I seem not to be able to as I am unhappy when I'm not getting high and even worse when I have got high.
    I can relate. I've been lucky to be able to stick to 1G a night and only a night or two a week. I love the coke, but I hate how it ruins my willy. He just doesn't want to obey me around my lass when I've had a few snorts. To make things worse, when my lass does coke her sex drive goes through the roof. Ah, the irony of it all!

    I got mine under control by only buying an 8 at a time and sharing it with my lass. When we are done with it, we are done with it and neither of us talks about wanting more. We also watch out for each other and keep each other in check. One night she was out of control and kept doing line after line after line (this is good stuff and very potent) and I had to tell her to stop. She scared me and that is why we both cut back.

    Good luck!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The problem with cocaine is that it acts on the brain's natural reward centres and after a while your brain starts preferring coke over sex, food, companionship etc. Try and find other things that interest you. The depressed empty feeling will go after a while. If you're finding it really hard, get in touch with a drug service.
    http://drugscope.soutron.com/helpfinder.asp
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've never done it. Sounds nice, but it doesn't seem to last long enough to get anything done.

    I could definately use a wake up snuff every day.

    In my experience with breaking habits, I honestly believe it's just will-power. I used to be an avid fingernail-chewer, with a lot of the blame going to my genes. I still do it but not as much at all. I just think about what I'm doing at the time and stop. Granted coke is slightly different. Addiction is annoying. I've been smoking for a couple years now and when the body wants something, it's hard to ignore it. More-so because it's a chemical reaction; an actual physical thing compelling you to fulfill it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've never touched coke but have had plenty of mates who have. My experience in drugs is on weed, powdered speed and mushes. Getting off speed was the worst time I had in my life and I'm still not fully clear off it. I have some now and again but nowhere near as bad as I was. There was nights back then when I'd do 7g minimum. sometimes days too. I agree with all the advice above for getting off any drugs as if you sever all ties to it, your brain will respond to that and will fight the addiction. Shame they don't do drug patches to reduce cravings lol.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I used to be addicted to cocaine amongst other drugs. I tried to give it up on numerous occasions but kept going back to it. The night didn't really seem complete unless i was sneaking off to the toilets to snort some coke and it was a little awkward because nearly none of my friends were users.

    I didn't use to fit in, i used because i needed confidence. I had zero self confidence and cocaine gave me everything i needed. I didn't feel shy and embarrassed on it, and i had some amazing nights because of it.

    However, one thing led to another and in the end, i moved onto crack cocaine. My entire life fell apart and I lost everything; my home, my health, my friends, my savings. I thought i'd be able to give up but it turns out it really wasn't that easy.

    The whole point of this is to tell you, i haven't used crack/cocaine since March 6th 2006. Do i miss it? Of course, but i realise there are more important things in life i want than to be the life and sole of the party. It is possible, but from my experiences you have to REALLY want it. I'm not saying it's easy, because it really isn't and it is a long process too.

    You say you only do coke when you're drunk and i suppose this is why most addicts stress the importance of total abstinence, because one thing inevitably does lead to another. I guess if you're really serious about being clean it's probably necessary to give up drinking too, especially in the early days when you are most susceptible to relapse.

    (sorry for rambling!)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The time when I started to realise I had a problem with Cocaine is when I was thinking about it every day. Before I went to sleep, I'd be laying there thinking about coke, I'd think about it whilst eating my breakfast and on the bus, at college and whilst watching TV. Unfortunately I didn't pay any attention to these clear warnings and carried on snorting.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I used to be addicted to cocaine amongst other drugs. I tried to give it up on numerous occasions but kept going back to it. The night didn't really seem complete unless i was sneaking off to the toilets to snort some coke and it was a little awkward because nearly none of my friends were users.

    I didn't use to fit in, i used because i needed confidence. I had zero self confidence and cocaine gave me everything i needed. I didn't feel shy and embarrassed on it, and i had some amazing nights because of it.

    However, one thing led to another and in the end, i moved onto crack cocaine. My entire life fell apart and I lost everything; my home, my health, my friends, my savings. I thought i'd be able to give up but it turns out it really wasn't that easy.

    The whole point of this is to tell you, i haven't used crack/cocaine since March 6th 2006. Do i miss it? Of course, but i realise there are more important things in life i want than to be the life and sole of the party. It is possible, but from my experiences you have to REALLY want it. I'm not saying it's easy, because it really isn't and it is a long process too.

    You say you only do coke when you're drunk and i suppose this is why most addicts stress the importance of total abstinence, because one thing inevitably does lead to another. I guess if you're really serious about being clean it's probably necessary to give up drinking too, especially in the early days when you are most susceptible to relapse.

    (sorry for rambling!)
    My mate has been taking crack for a while now and she is slowly losing it (family, friends). I have tried to help her, but I think she's in it too deep now and its only up to her when she wants to quit and start afresh.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This thread makes me so glad that i didn't do things to excess when i had the chance. Only sensible thing i've done in my life! Although i can relate to how you feel, i'm the same but with chocolate :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    pill 'ed wrote: »
    The time when I started to realise I had a problem with Cocaine is when I was thinking about it every day. Before I went to sleep, I'd be laying there thinking about coke, I'd think about it whilst eating my breakfast and on the bus, at college and whilst watching TV. Unfortunately I didn't pay any attention to these clear warnings and carried on snorting.
    I can relate. That's the clear sign of mental addication to it. If I have access to it, then bloody hell I'm going to do it. If it's not around, the thoughts go away after a few days. It's evil.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    pill 'ed wrote: »
    :yes:

    Little things set me off wanting it, I had a Film Studies exam on the film 'City Of God' (brilliant film) .

    Yes mate, quality film.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    funny thing addiction. i saw an old friend from uni yesterday, he's just started smoking fags again after quitting for nearly a year, his doctor told him a while back he was a dead man if he didn't stop, but that's addiction for you. i'm going to see how long i can go without smoking this year, if i go to glastonbury or amsterdam this year it's all over though lol....

    i know what you mean pill'ed, seeing people smoke it in films still sets me off a bit, i watched children of men last week and when michael caine passes clive owen a spliff i was like 'damn clive, pass that shit over here'...the feeling passed tho, few years ago i would have reached for the tin or got on the blower to my dealer.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    chan-chan wrote: »
    My mate has been taking crack for a while now and she is slowly losing it (family, friends). I have tried to help her, but I think she's in it too deep now and its only up to her when she wants to quit and start afresh.

    Yeah, unfortunately you really need to want to help yourself. Lots of people told me i was getting ill and taking things too far, but i wasn't ready to stop using, so i ignored them.

    In my mind, addiction is a constant battle and the depressing part is, its going to be like this for the rest of my life. I knew someone very dearly who was 9 years clean and seemed to have it sussed. He overdosed on heroin late last year and died and honestly, i'm devastated. That's the reality of it really.

    Don't get me wrong, drugs are fun and most of the time they did the trick, but where does it stop? I want to use all the time, the cravings haven't gone away, but i know if i use i will ruin the rest of my life. Perhaps right now that's the only thing keeping me clean, because i really never knew when it was time to say enough is enough.

    It's funny that you mentioned films triggering off cravings. During one of my clean periods a couple of years ago, i watched 'The Business' and couldn't wait for the film to end so i could go and score. Lots of things trigger it. Sometimes i'll just be walking about Boots and i'll be able to smell coke. They say it doesn't have a smell, but i'm adamant it does!

    (again, rambling, seems i don't know what a 'short reply' is)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What are the signs of becoming addicted to cocaine? I know that probably sounds really stupid but hear me out.. Thing is, I've had the odd gram for a few weekends in the past but my cocaine use has been more frequent lately. Not because of my spending, more to do with the fact that a couple of my mates have recently started dealing and its been a lot easier to get hold of for free.

    I just worry that addiction is one of those things you don't realise is a problem until its too late. I NEVER feel like I need it nor do I crave it. I get the odd thought where I think "a line would go down nicely now" but thats usually after a couple of drinks and I get the same thing with weed and pills also.

    As I said, stupid question, but I don't ever recall being addicted to anything and I just want to make sure I keep myself on track.

    ETA: I've just searched on google and didn't find anything I was looking for.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Aspire wrote: »
    What are the signs of becoming addicted to cocaine? I know that probably sounds really stupid but hear me out.. Thing is, I've had the odd gram for a few weekends in the past but my cocaine use has been more frequent lately. Not because of my spending, more to do with the fact that a couple of my mates have recently started dealing and its been a lot easier to get hold of for free.

    I just worry that addiction is one of those things you don't realise is a problem until its too late. I NEVER feel like I need it nor do I crave it. I get the odd thought where I think "a line would go down nicely now" but thats usually after a couple of drinks and I get the same thing with weed and pills also.

    As I said, stupid question, but I don't ever recall being addicted to anything and I just want to make sure I keep myself on track.

    ETA: I've just searched on google and didn't find anything I was looking for.

    -When you start thinking about it alot in your every day life.
    -Also if talking about coke or watching someone snorting in a film makes you want it.
    -When you start getting really angry when you can't get hold of any.
    -When you can't turn down a line
    -When you start resorting to petty theft or selling belongings to get the money for coke.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    pill 'ed wrote: »
    -When you start thinking about it alot in your every day life.
    -Also if talking about coke or watching someone snorting in a film makes you want it.
    -When you start getting really angry when you can't get hold of any.
    -When you can't turn down a line
    -When you start resorting to petty theft or selling belongings to get the money for coke.
    When want turns to need.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeh, i think that sums it up. I think a person can want to do coke/other drugs/alcohol/ cigarettes etc, i think that is WANTING the good side of whatever drug offers, it is when its a NEED , especially a NEED thats put b4 other things like financial situation/family etc. I always compare my drug use to the alcohol use of a normal average joe on the street. IE I wouldnt be particularly comfortable going out with all my mate who are doing coke if i wasnt, but then that would be the same if they were drinking beer - i imagine most drinkers/drug users could relate to that. maybe its a poor excuse but i enjoy my drug use as i do my alcohol / generally going out and getting twated sessions - no more no less - thats my rational behind not having an addiction anyway lol
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    JadedJaded Posts: 2,682 Boards Guru
    Aspire wrote: »
    What are the signs of becoming addicted to cocaine?

    For the clinical definition of addiction from the Royal College of Physicians, follow this link, the table summarises it nicely. In practice though I am sure there are accepted criteria - I'll ask around and find out for you. General rule of thumb though, is that if you think you are using to much, then you probably are.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Some good stuff on that link, cheers!

    Definitely have a better idea now anyway, so mish accomplished.

    deceelpool - I know exactly what you mean, if I go out and everyone else is getting trashed but I can't (for whatever reason) it feels like their on a different level to me and I usually end up having a bit of a shit night. It's like they're all on some sort of adventure but you're just sat there watching.
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