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Indeed. And, more importantly, it's not their job to "put you at ease". Whilst they should maintain some degree of professionalism - and so not be insulting - they are not there to nurse you through the test.
I thought so too.
I've discovered today though, that two other people (a girl at college, and someone she knows) have complained about this same examiner, for being rude and shouting (as she did actually raise her voice and "tell me off" it's very unlikely I could of imagined it) and I've also spoke to another friend, who's mum is a driving instructor, and she has also complained about her failing people for reasons that make no sense.
She also says that I was completely right in what I did at the roundabout, and that I shouldn't have been stopped halfway through a manouveure, and that unless I was hardly moving, I shouldn'tbe failed for going "too slow" when reversing. So that's three ADI's on my side now.
I got a tosser of an examiner at my local centre and switched to a different one, which suited me a lot better. Sadly the examiner is perfectly entitled to tell you off and make recommendations about your driving, like you being really nervous so possibly not ready. I'm not saying you weren't ready, but it is a reasonable thought process, if you were completely ready then plenty of people would think that there is no reason to be nervous (these people fail to remember that lots of people find tests of any sort unnerving).
My instructor advised me that should I fail my test (i was paranoid), the answer was to retake and ask for your instructor to accompany you. You're instructor is allowed to sit in the back seat, they won't be able to say anything to you during the test but they can make notes as to what you or the examiner has done/said. My boyfriend felt he was failed unfairly and had his instructor with him the next time. I think it makes the examiners behave a bit more nicely as it sounds like yours was taking her pmt out on you! Best of luck xXx
By all means make a complaint it's not fair to treat you like that. Even if they do nothing, they have a duty to 'file' it, so if in the future she gets accused of shouting at someone and gets brought up in a tribunal or something (i honestly don't know how it works) then they have a record of her being rude and unprofessional to exam candidates.
Being cynical, examiners can get in trouble if they pass or fail too many people, so if they've passed a lot they *might* try and fail you for something in order to keep the numbers happy. But normally doesn't occur these days (did in the 'olden days' apparently though... ).
Good luck with everything and the next driving test
That is a load of nonsense.
I'll let you read here how you should approach a roundabout and what you should do on it.
http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/17.htm#160
This section makes is slightly ambiguous which lane to join when you take an intermediate exit, eg the second: It may well depend on the road markings or any signs prior to the roundabout.
Actually, it isn't . The highway code does say that you usually travel in the left-most lane, and the other lanes are for overtaking. At junctions you do select the appropriate lane, but if there are two lanes (think of a motorway diverging) then go in the left-most lane (even if it's the middle lane) so faster moving traffic can pass on the right.
I may not be 100% correct, but it's far from a load of nonsense. A good example of nonsense: "it's best to reverse round a roundabout with your hazard lights on, whilst singing 'come on eileen'.
So it depends on the road markings.
If there are two lanes, one with the road marking forward and left, and one with forward and right, you take the left lane usually by default for the second junction, as this minimises the risk that a car in the left lane will try and continue on to the third junction with you in the right lane.
I have. I've recieved something saying that they're "looking into my problem" (yes, of course :rolleyes: ) and they'll email me an official response within ten days.
That was Monday, so I'm not holding out for anything any time soon. I can't book another test just yet anyway, so I'm just going to wait patiently.
Going up Eccleshall road towards the motorway, and I needed to go into Creswell. Straight ahead, left hand lane :mad: I'd done it on my pretest about 20 minutes before haha.
Definitely worth disputing that point at least .
Good Luck
(examiner)(at the end of test)
eh u went too 1st gear at every give way,its a give way not a stop sign
Sounds fair enough to me, you don't have to slow down to a crawl at every give way, I was never taught to go into first for long sweeping give ways etc. I was taught to maintain momentum if possible. So long as you make the approach at a suitable speed it should be possible to judge in advance if you can safely continue. I can only expect that that was what the examiner was picking up on.
I think all you can do is practice, practice, practice, and increase the odds of your passing. Because even if you drive perfectly, there will be a chance that they'll fail you, because they're human and make their own mistakes / poor judgement.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=ecclesall+road,+stafford&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=9.181725,19.6875&ie=UTF8&ll=52.826067,-2.145161&spn=0.002292,0.004807&t=h&z=18
I'd say left hand lane was the correct one, as it's not a dual carriageway into Creswell Grove, meaning that right hand lane traffic would be forced to merge with traffic already in the road
I'd only use the right hand lane there to go on the M6, or the A34
Ok I know this is a very old thread, but I had to reply... I'm in amazement, Id forgotten all about this haha! Only logged on today for the first time in ages to be nosy :-)
That was the roundabout yes (I use it constantly now haha!). I should have updated on here really, the woman was given a warning due to her ways, and wasn't allowed to be allocated me on test again (or however it works) and as far as I know was later that year fired (or at least suspended) because she kept it up with others - including friends of mine. Grr.
I, however, passed my driving test on the next go with 4 minors :-) And have been driving 2 years now
So yes. Thanks for your advice back then you lot!
Haha! How funny!
YAY! Congrats!
Sorry to hear about your predicament and I have to say I know how you feel because I too was shafted by the examiner in Pinner test centre in London the old c*nt. Basically there is NOTHING you can do. All in all you will waste time and energy going to and fro photocopying your mark sheet and posting it here and there and witness statement this and that by the time you do get your £50 for the test back it just wont be worth it. You will realise that nothing has changed and by the time you do receive your £50 you have either passed your driving test or are in que for 1 because it took me just over a year to get my money back(which wasnt my intention I wanted the fail turned to a pass not the £50) which when I did receive and looked back at all the forms and running I had to do just didint seem adequate. Dont put yourself through this because there is no true reward for the effort you put in to seek justice.
So just throw a tantrum call the examiner the worst names and forget about it and move on.
Also this thread is pretty old.