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There is far less evidence, or at least I have heard of far less. But questions have to asked about why, with the attack on 9/11 and the 7/7 bombings, the respective governments of the US and UK have been running drills that mime the actual events almost perfectly. I'd also be curious to know why the bus that blew up was the only bus to be rerouted off its normal transit course that day.
They weren't built to withstand big fuck off jet airliners laden with fuel being deliberately flown into them.
They weren't.
It wasn't.
Quite a compelling argument you have there :chin: guess I never thought of it that way.
Well that's not strictly true, they we're built to survive a Boeing 707 back in the 70's. There was some program awhile back that said the engineers had supposedly taken everything into account.
I'm not aware of any mimes of 9/11 - but I'm surprised you don't know why the government would be trialing a terrorist attack on the london transport system.
They declared war, they've had 30 years of terrorist attacks and it's simply mind numbing obviously that if a terrorist was to attack the civilian population of london, they'd do it through the rush hour.
Every news program identified it as an obvious target, every person down the pub knew it. The questions would be if the government HADN'T been running trials based on it.
By the way the bus was re-routed because the tube explosions had taken place nearly an hour earlier. The whole 30 route was re-routed, as were many others. You're claiming that ONLY that bus was re-routed, so please post up a link about about that.
It happened just round the corner from us, and many of our friends were affected or there when it happened. So at least follow the rules by providing the link to claims. Obviously the 9/11 cult is too developed to expect that, but at least we can hope that people talking about 7/7 will base their beliefs on fact.
I do say. Yes, there was an exercise, no it wasn't exactly the same as what happened. These exercises happen all the time.
Well, it wasn't the only bus re-routed. End of really. What more do you want me to say?
Who said that it was unquestioningly?
Just because someone hasn't come to the same conclusion as you doesn't mean that they are wrong, or that they haven't also asked questions. They've just come to a different conclusion.
Problem is that there isn't a ingle "killer" fact which debunks the official line. In spite ofr what some may want you to believe.
I do think that the attack has been used by some to further their own cause, but that doesn't mean that they were behind that attack in the first place.
so you accept the (albeit unlikely) possibility that it was an inside job? there are actually lots of facts that don't match up with the official line, i really can't be arsed to list them all here because it's been done to death........
one example is the official government story that WTC7 collapsed from small fires, but i've seen a video clip of larry silverstein (WTC leaseholder) admitting that WTC 7 was 'pulled' intentionally i.e. with explosives, now how does that match the official line exactly?
Oh yes they were... Like has already been said they were built to withstand fully laiden 707s which would have had far more momentum than what actually hit them.
The energy that caused the rubble and brought the towers down could have done that much damage to the steel, the querey is where that energy came from, it doesn't really add up to say just the planes.
Just for the record I don't think the governement did it, I just think they skimped on the report somewhat to cover up other failings.
It's simply another fact that people can see in different ways - and no one is saying there shouldn't be discussion, but you have to accept that your interpretation of facts isn't going to be the same as other peoples.
For me the biggest problem is the way so many people hear an offical discription of facts and then fantatically assume it can't be true (not that I'm saying your doing that) without considering whether it could be.
Discussion is good, it's a shame when the only come backs people can think of are random insults really.
now to me that's pretty unambiguous but hey.....i can't see that clip btw, here's the one i'm talking about.....
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329&q=wtc+7
i was quite young at the time and actually believed the official line for quite a while until i looked into it further, believe me i wish i hadn't lol.
Exactly.
Ha ha ha! I posted a link to page which questions your pov and you dismiss it out of hand. Hypocrite.
My criticism of your link was it's credibilty, I did trawl through it rather than dismissing it out of hand. I looked at it and I didn't find it to be well supported. What I have been taught to look for when assessing a 'story' is RAVEN.
R Reliabilty/References
A Ability to see
V Vested interest
E Experience (including qualifications)
N Neutrality.
Unfortunately at times this means I have high standards and if something is badly supported with the 9/11myths site is it doesn't cut it to my standards.
RAVEN's great, if something does a good job in at least 3/5 I like it, if it gets to 5/5 it's got to be sus!
Which multipule western nation states? The UK may well be following the US exactly, but we've virtually been doing that all the way since the World War. And, if I'm not mistaken we still have our own government (even if it is crap).
Yes, both governments were planning for terrorist attacks, good, thats the sort of thing they should do, plan for the worst. We've had bombings in London for generations so the government has been planning what to do about terrorism for years.
And, I'll stress again, there are people who were injured on the 7th of July who watched it happen, so unless the bombs were planted on the men, or they were really dedicated MI5 people, it seems like it was a suicide bombing by muslim terrorists.
If you have reached the conclusion that the jets were deliberately flown into buildings (rather than by accident) then I assume you have critical reasoning as to WHO was flying them. If not, how can you reach the conclusion that they were deliberately flown into the buildings ? :chin: