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Pregnant drinkers/smokers!
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Ok, so i am flicking through the channels as i do and i come across this news show...might be Tonight with Trevor McDonald but i cant remember, where it was all about how young girls who are pregnant are not stopping Drinking or smoking, they are just carrying on with weekend binges like being pregnant makes no difference. I am totally shocked, i mean i walk around town and see it abit, girls smoking while obviously pregnant, but this show made out it is a serious problem of the current generation. That they are so hooked on binge drinking (i like a drink, dont get me wrong there) and smoking (i have the occasional cigar) that they cant even stop for the sake of their unborn child!
Am i the only one shocked or surprised by how common it is?
Am i the only one shocked or surprised by how common it is?
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Women who drink whilst pregnant, their baby's can be worse from the damage of the drink than say a woman who is addicted to herion.
ITV always over-egg the pudding, 90% of what they show is exaggerated and/or fabricated.
I can only really speak from my own experience as someone with a LOT of friends who became mothers at young ages. Not one of them smoked, drank or took drugs once they were aware of their condition so I don't think it is a harrowing indictment of our times or anything of the sort.
It's also worth remembering that while we know a lot more about the impact of cigarettes, alcohol and drugs on an unborn child now... in the generations of women before us they often barely even changed their lifestyle on becoming pregnant. I know we can now claim ignorance on their behalf, but still.
But it's not though is it? There's someone else's quality of life at stake, and not in the hazy passive smoker/impact on society from drunken wasters sense. It's very real damage that smoking and heavy drinking does to an unborn.
It is no coincidence that the pregnant women - often teenagers that will binge drink and chain smoke every Friday night through pregnancy will turn out to make crap mothers. If they knowingly harm their unborn child deliberately disadvantaging their child they quite simply don't care and shouldn't be having a kid. Cut welfare and a lot of these people who are not fit to be parents wouldn't have kids.
Yes. It is.
Whereas once the child is born it will have the purest water and cleanest air only.
I'm sorry, but I cannot get too worked up about what a mother does to their unborn child in the womb when you consider the risks that it will face after birth.
No, they would still have kids, you'd just have kids in even more poverty than you do now.
Since when did this country become infested with healthy-eating Nazis? And since when has it been any of their bloody business?
Something which is quite simply, bollocks.
This is possibly one of the most cuntist comments I have read on here for ages. The insinuation that these people are on benefits and therefore obviously more likely to be shit parents in beneath contempt.
Obviously the best parents are those rich enough to dump their kids at boarding school :rolleyes:
In fact, this one line shows more ignorance of the reality of life than anything else in this thread.
Clinton's welfare reforms reduced teenage pregnancies.
That isn't what I meant. My point was that many, or shall we say a a disproportionate number of these binge drinking, heavy smoking pregnant women will be also welfare recipients.
When you're a pregnant woman, your body seems to turn into a public telephone booth where everyone, including perfect strangers think they can come in, and give their $0.02. I have a friend who was happily sipping orange juice at her local pub, and had a stranger come up to her and started giving her a lecture on drinking during pregnancy. And when that happens, conflicting advice starts going around, and it's interesting how it varies from country to country and how some foods/drinks/activities might be taboo somewhere. Sorry about the tangent, but while foetal alcohol syndrome is a serious issue, you'll have people just as passionate about nuts/soft cheese/eggs/shellfish etc as they are with alcohol. I've seen it, pregnancy/parenting communities are scary places...
I might not like some choices people make in pregnancy (my exes friend gave birth to a 5lb baby after smoking 10 a day) but it's not my place to say what they should or shouldn't do, and it would be very difficult to legislate their behaviour. Take a look at the US for example, and their treatment of a woman (I can't remember her name) who sought rehab advice because she wanted to stop taking drugs.
Lol!
People have a lot to say about conduct during pregnancy
You would think it's the pregnant woman herself who should have most of the say in all matters regarding her pregancy...
Yeah you'd think. I don't think it's all malicious though, they do say the road to hell is paved with good intentions etc. Going from personal experience from friends/relations pregnancies, people just want to chip in their own experiences. Given that no two pregnancies are the same, it often results in very conflicting advice. I'm tempted to shut myself away for 9 months when I have kids.
Oh to live in such a simple world. Tell me, are there pixies at the bottom of your garden?
People are complex dis. There are lots of complex reasons why people do things that are bad for them. If only people were perfect, wouldn't life be so much better? :rolleyes:
did they fuck
So?
I agree about the pregnant women automatically assumed public property thing, and thats not right, but on one hand youve got people saying, face up to your responsibilities when you have sex, and people fel conflicted about things like pregnancy termination, but then theyre so resentful they end up almost (maybe subconsciously) trying to sabotage the pregnancy anyway.
I feel so torn over this, Ive watched heavily pregnant friends in the past injecting heroin and speed in front of me - did i feel judgement? - Hell yes!! I stopped all that shit as soon as I saw the blue line on the pregnancy test myself.
I do think the mother HAS to have final say over what she does, pregnant or not pregnant - its her body, but if you cant admit its a fucking shame when you have a tiny baby born with foetal alcohol syndrome or addicted to Heroin at birth, I find it a bit hard to feel sympathetic. Why didnt they just have a fucking abortion, seriously.
Not an unbiased source I accept but it seems to be properly referenced.
I suppose the fact that teenage pregnancies plummeted following Bill Clinton's welfare reforms was some extraordinary coincidence.