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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited March 27 in Work & Study
I'm already starting to think about the next steps after my diploma, and a degree is hopefully on the cards.

Now, I've already decided that I don't want to live a student life, so I'm thinking of possibly commuting from Milton Keynes to London full time.

Has anyone done this sort of thing and if so, what was it like? Was it a good idea? Thanks in advance.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think unless you're really pushed for cash or some other reason staying at home whilst going to Uni you'll lose out a lot
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    first off i'd just like to get something out the way. to you, what is the 'student life'? i think you'll find that most of the things you think you know are misconceptions. anyway you'll get out of it what you put into it i.e. you don't have to be a lazy beer drinking daytime tv watching slob.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    to you, what is the 'student life'?

    I'm wondering the same!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    How far is it? The first time I went to school I traveled 20 miles to class. The college was in my town and the next town over, but most of the classes were over there. I now travel about 15 miles to school (as I go right from work to school) and I find absoutly no problems with it. I lived in "halls" for one month once. I would never NEVER EVER do it again. If its not too far of a distance I would highly suggest commuting. Alot of people do. Its very nice living where you want to, not where you have to.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    How much is it going to cost you to commute that distance and how much time are you going to waste each day doing so? Realisitcally you won't get any work done on the train. What will the facilities be like for you to work and spend time between classes. They are all things to think about.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    One of my friends does that commute to church and she finds it hard going - rather than do it twice in a weekend if she's down on Sat she'll stay overnight. You'd have to find somewhere to stay if you ever wanted to go out without stressing about the train.

    And in first year everyone will be in halls so if you want a social life you've got a much greater chance if you're at least in the same city as everyone else.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm already starting to think about the next steps after my diploma, and a degree is hopefully on the cards.

    Now, I've already decided that I don't want to live a student life, so I'm thinking of possibly commuting from Milton Keynes to London full time.

    Has anyone done this sort of thing and if so, what was it like? Was it a good idea? Thanks in advance.

    I think that would cost a bomb and you'd feel fed up spending so much time travelling. Do you have to study in London? If you go elsewhere and worked as well as studying you may be able to earn enough to rent your own place rather than living student style.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Another thing, is a degree really the right thing for you? IIRC you're doing some kind of beauty diploma, if you're planning on continuing along those lines then you might be better off looking for an apprenticeship type thing.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I am just about to go into my third year of uni, and live 85 miles away from university, so it takes me two hours to drive there and two hours to drive home.

    The reasons I choose to commute are:
    I've never had more than ten hours of lectures and seminars a week spread over three days on my supposedly "full-time" course, and I only have lectures for 18 weeks a year. Last term I was only in one day a week, and this year I will be in for five hours a week spread over two days, for the 18 weeks that my terms last.
    I lived in halls in my first year. It was catered etc., but cost more than my student loan and I had real trouble finding a job, so I was skint all the time (living off about a fiver a week).
    I did not get along with the girls in halls; no-one went out at weekends, on the nights we did go out people would be in their room writing an essay till 10.30pm by which time I had completely wound down and didn't even feel like going out anymore. I found it to be very bitchy and cliquey and I couldn't be bothered will all the catty comments and bitching that went on, even amongst the guys.
    A lot of the people there were the kind of people that had never really been allowed to go out when living at home, so to them it was a whole new experience having no-one to answer to and being able to go out, get drunk etc. whereas I had been doing that for several years prior to going to uni, so it didn't really feel to me like I was getting sudden freedoms that I never had before.

    BUT, saying all of that, I think my experience of uni has been quite different from other peoples, most people have a fantastic time. I would say to anyone that it is a good idea to live in halls for at least your first year, just to see how you get along with it - if you really hate it, the uni year goes so quickly anyway that you will soon be home again, and you can then choose to commute knowing then that you are making the right decision for you.

    Difficulties in commuting are that you have to leave significantly earlier for lectures than you would living close by, and you have to allow for trains breaking down or traffic jams. For example if I had any 9am lectures, I would have to leave my house at about 5.30am to get there in time allowing for the rush hour.

    Other annoyances include having to go into uni on a particular day for a meeting or to sign a bit of paper which takes less than 10 minutes of your time, and then having to commute all the way back again. Your uni may or may not be particularly accommodating to the fact that you live further away than everyone else, and there are times that you simply have to confirm something or have a meeting on a particular day when you otherwise wouldn't be in, and you have to make the journey for that sole purpose.

    You should also consider what you are going to do around exam time - to be honest I wouldn't want to rely on public transport or a car to get me to an exam, I would want to be within walking distance of where the exam is taking place. My solution to this is that I stay in a B&B near uni the night before my exams, it still works out significantly cheaper than living in halls and takes away the worry that I'm not going to make it to the exam.

    It is still quite easy to meet new people and make friends, and if I want a night out with my friends at uni I just sleep on one of their floors or stay in a travelodge - I haven't really found it a problem, and it is nice to have different groups of friends both at home and at uni that I can see regularly.

    Also, in a way it makes you more motivated - you think to youself, I have just travelled for X amount of time to get to this lecture, now I am bloody going to get as much out of it as I possibly can!

    Anyway sorry for the essay style nature of this post, I hope you find it at least somewhat helpful!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I commuted for about a month due to accomodation problems and it was hell (Reading to London, about 1 hr 30 min door to door). It took up so much time and energy that I couldn't get much studying done let alone a social life. Don't forget that for many students spending many hours in the library until 9 or 10 pm most nights is fairly common and when I was commuting I just couldn'd do it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i think ilora thinks its getting pissed all the time and being lazy. :impissed:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't want to live in halls because it's not my thing. The thought of living in halls (again) makes me want to vomit :lol:

    And yes, a degree is the right thing for me - it's the next step from what I'm studying (not beauty, but makeup artistry which is a completely different ball game).

    I'm still not sure yet, a couple of my friends on the course are looking at the same course at the same place (London College of Fashion) so I may be more inclined to house share rather than live in halls.

    It's all still just a brainstorm atm, nothing's certain. Thanks for your thoughts!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Make up artistry still isn't necessarily ideally suited to a degree, it would be worth talking to people who are doing what you want to do in the future now and find out what they did, I suspect for a lot of them it won't have been a degree course.

    You don't have to live in halls, a lot of student accomodation is shared flats now.
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    BunnieBunnie Posts: 6,099 Master Poster
    I commute every day, it takes me an hour, and i have been doing it for 3 weeks. its knackering, but i think its better for me than living in bristol, as i dont think id do the work that is necessary for a post grad.
    Im with scary, id say work experience is probably more valuable than a degree. check before you waste money and time.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Make up artistry still isn't necessarily ideally suited to a degree, it would be worth talking to people who are doing what you want to do in the future now and find out what they did, I suspect for a lot of them it won't have been a degree course.

    You don't have to live in halls, a lot of student accomodation is shared flats now.
    My tutor is a makeup artist. She has recommended us to go further than the diploma into a foundation degree and degree.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fair enough, and I don't know why I bother as you blatantly don't listen but I still encourage you to ask aroud, and away from college. There are other ways to further your skill than with a degree and the way education is at the moment it pushes lots of people towards degrees when in reality there may be better things for them.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've already persued other options and it seems there really aren't any - there are no apprenticeships for makeup artists, they simply don't exist here. There's more chance of me getting a job if I have the relevant experience in the field of makeup artistry. I don't particularly want to do the whole 'uni' thing, but it seems the only option!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    There must be other options, surely?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Would a uni degree count as experience? Or would you get further by working for three years? If they want experience they will probably still want it even if you've got a degree, ok they won't want three years on top of a degree, but you may find yourself better off with 3 years experience than a degree. You may however be better with the degree but with something vocational you should really look at the other options.

    If there aren't apprenticeships as such, do people take on juniors like they do in hair salons or something along those lines?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The fashion/film industry isn't an easy one to get into. There are hundreds of girls taking 'day courses' or '12 week courses' in makeup and then expecting to get a job out of it - it simply doesn't happen.
    People will only employ a makeup artist with enough years experience and yes, work experience is an integral part of the degree. A degree from the London College of Fashion is highly regarded in the industry - people who are trained on the job aren't respected at all. :no:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    how do you know this though? surely it depends on the individual.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    From my tutor - she's been in the industry for decades....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    As a tutor. Where has she worked as a professional in that field, rather than teaching the subject?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't understand the question really... We have her for 3 days a week, the rest of the time she works as a theatrical makeup artist all over the country.
    She's worked on The Full Monty and Les Miserables to name just a couple.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't want to live in halls because it's not my thing. The thought of living in halls (again) makes me want to vomit :lol:

    And yes, a degree is the right thing for me - it's the next step from what I'm studying (not beauty, but makeup artistry which is a completely different ball game).

    I'm still not sure yet, a couple of my friends on the course are looking at the same course at the same place (London College of Fashion) so I may be more inclined to house share rather than live in halls.

    It's all still just a brainstorm atm, nothing's certain. Thanks for your thoughts!

    You can live in self catered halls. You cant just sit at home because you are scared of the big wide world. University life is the best experience ive ever had.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Look, no offence, but it's up to me how I want to live my life! I don't need to be told to live in halls. Been there, done that. Don't want to do it again. End of.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    In my uni, there are a few drunken sods amongst families with kids, couples, sports people, single parents, etcetc... Do you know what kind of people will be pursuing the same degree? At a university level, I'd expect more versatility in the people.

    I'm 20 now, and one of my close friends here is a 30 year old mother of two that I've never seen drunk. I currently live with exchange students and a girl who's trying to write her final essay.

    I don't think you can put every student in the same group and class them as all living a 'student life'. There are as many different people where I am as they are many. I certainly can't figure out what you can possibly even mean by that.

    Don't forget that an huge part of a degree like yours is building up a connection network. My brother went to an art school and one of the more important things he's gaining by staying is to know people that might help him in the future. He helps them and they help him. He teaches them something and they teach him. He's actually gotten real paying jobs doing what he loves because friends have been too busy to do stuff themselves and forwarded the assignment.

    Uni isn't just about studying hard, the people you are studying with actually matter. They're a part of the thing. My uni for example is small and has a reputation for having spat out circles of high ranked people that all know each other quite well and stay in contact long after graduating. You may pride yourself in being all independant and bad-ass person who doesn't need anybody else, but the truth is that it's not how things are in real life.

    If you want to ditch living/socialising with other people because you don't think they're good enough for you you're considering commuting for the wrong reasons. Children at home, uni part time, sure, I can see why, but with your bizarre reason you do come off as if you think you're superior to the rest of the human race and in the long run that isn't going to work to your advantage.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Look, no offence, but it's up to me how I want to live my life! I don't need to be told to live in halls. Been there, done that. Don't want to do it again. End of.

    Surely there are other types of accomodation available to you? I started out in halls, got fed up of it but am now living in a three-room place with a shared kitchen. We're four together and there's minimal pain.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Lmao, people seriously think I have a superiority complex here! I don't want to live in halls, for personal reasons, not because I think "I'm better than anyone else" - I don't believe that for a second.

    Halls isn't for everyone we all know that and it's not for me, simple as.
    It's an expense I could live without - I could live at home without paying rent and therefore not have such a huge debt at the end of my studying. It really is that simple.
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