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Police Warning = Criminal Record?
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Had a call this eve from the police to have a chat about some malicious comms I've sent to someone (albeit 1 email, but that's not the point - I shouldn't have done it).
Bottom line is they say no action will be taken but if I contact said person again it will be escalated to harrassment. My question is will they keep what has happened on file at all i.e a criminal record? I haven't been charged for anything, just a polite (and fair) verbal warning.
Bottom line is they say no action will be taken but if I contact said person again it will be escalated to harrassment. My question is will they keep what has happened on file at all i.e a criminal record? I haven't been charged for anything, just a polite (and fair) verbal warning.
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Well, there goes any chance of a new job! Never mind.
Don't be so silly.
Thanks, that would be appreciated.
Excuse my over-reaction; without being too subjective, the communication didn't need the police involved, although I respect the action taken and it's a lesson well learnt.
A formal warning is not a criminal record either.
But it makes no difference in regards to employment.
I've had a few cautions now. Each one just gained just after the last one expired. hehe
No it doesn't. Was just answering the first post though.:)
Cautions can come up on an enhanced CRB check.
Only current ones though surely?
Nope, all cautions can come up. They often don't though. They don't have time periods either.
From my brief reading, that's what I feared. I think they remain for 5 years before they should be automatically removed - if they're not removed after 5 years you can request such.
Still, thanks for your replies guys, much appreciated.
There's a difference between a policeman ringing you up and warning you and actually getting taken into the station and getting an official caution.
True, but I'd imagine either way a record of it is made in some way.
Are you thinking of applying for a job that requires an enhanced CRB check? If not, don't worry about it.
http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmoney/law/introuble/precourtpenalties
No, not at present, but my initial reading indicated that it remains on the record for 5 years, so should I apply for a job in the next 5 years that requires an enhanced CRB check, it may be a sticking point.
Just took a read of the article at http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmoney/law/introuble/precourtpenalties. It states police can only caution where:
* There's enough evidence that you are guilty;
* You are over the age of 18;
* You admit to the offence;
* You consent to the caution. If you don't, you may be charged.
Does that mean all four requirements must be met? If so, the phone conversation I had with the police officer made no mention of any "consent to the caution". Yes, I admitted my offence, am over 18 (I'm 21) and there is proably enough evidence against me. But I didn't consent to a caution, and wasn't told I was being cautioned at any point in the phone conversation (i.e. there was not even an informal caution, despie it being verbal?)
(Still, I made the front page of thesite with the post - I guess some good came out of this).
Formal cautions can and often do show up on enhanced CRB checks, particularly if the caution is for violent or sexual offences. They also do go on your criminal anticedence, which will be admissible in court should you commit a further offence, and may also be admissible in court if you are a witness to an offence.
Depends on the job you apply for. I have a couple of criminal convictions and work in a field where I need to have an enhanced CRB check. They don't stop me getting jobs. Remember as well that a caution is not a criminal conviction.
Okay, but is it even an informal caution / warning, based on my last post? That's the issue.
To be honest though, even then, it's unlikely you'd have to do any more than just explain it and as others have mentioned you've just had a quick word from a copper about your actions rather than been given a permanent black mark.
It's then up to the employer to ignore what they disclose, or ask you to explain it.