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dutch to allow paedophile group
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5187010.stm
Any thoughts?
I thought the legal age of consent was already 12 in Holland?
Any thoughts?
I thought the legal age of consent was already 12 in Holland?
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The bottom of it, is that it might not be pretty to have such party, but allowing some like that one to exist show total freedom of speech for all...
I don't think much people would vote for them anyway, appart from pervert...
It's entirely incidental that this particular political party have paedophillic tendancies (for want of better phrasing) as sophia pointed out, they also support free train travel for all, which I'm a massive fan of. What the dutch authorities were presented with was a dangerous political precendent. Change this party for the BNP, or the monster raving loonies, or islamic hard-liners, or my own political party, the all night party. Where do you draw the line, of what's ok, and what's not ok, especially seeing as society's morality is entirely arbitrary.
I find you scary as hell! Incidental? Incidental? It's horrific.
And I can't see how any of this squares with Fiend's allegedly Christian beliefs.
And I can't see the relevance of dragging that into this thread. Ho hum.
I said it the last time but what strikes me is how freely they've admitted to being paedophiles. They clearly don't think they are doing anything wrong. Quite an insight.
If members of the parties put their policies into practice throw them in jail. Until then you just have to shrug and think that the price you're paying for free speech by listening to distasteful rubbish is a hell of a lot less than some people have paid.
Isn't liberal democracy based upon pluralism?
Surely if you want free train fares you don't have to be a paedophile to fight for them!
Katralla, try to read past the paedophillia, it doesn't matter what I think of the party, read my post again.
ETA: I fail to see why it is so hard to profess to be a rational adult in a debating forum and still not be able to see the massive implications of banning a political party. I also completly fail to see, and infinite pointed out, what my faith has to do with it. Though I can't really win there, on one side there are those who consider me everything from foolish and blinkered to a rabid fanatic out to con the world's children (despite all evidence to the contrary) and on the other I have moron's like Stargalaxative who pull it out and wave it irrelevantly around whenever I demonstrate the ability to be pragmatic about a situtation that I have no power to change and has absolutly nothing to do with what I believe.
Never make jokes in P&D, no-one here has a sense of humour.
As for the other point, that's what democracy and politics is, a compromise. Esentially every political party is likely to have something that appeals to joe-normal, it's a question of what he thinks of all the other policies and how far he's willing to compromise his principles before he votes for them.
i fail to understand why her faith is being brunged into this ...:chin:
It's incidental, let the people decide. If the Dutch want to be know as the nation of paedophiles then it is their decision. It's no different to having a BNP, or Labour or Tory party.
Hm... I think that you have the problem here.
The fact that the vast majority won't like them means that they will not get the votes they need. The people have spoken. In a democratic nation that is how it should be.
POssibly the most dangerous expression in any political arena. Ther eare no limits.
How do words and thoughts do that, precisely?
Actually, their parents have the voting rights and the responsibility for protection. Not the state.
I don't think it's that simple.
No, actually the state does have responsibility for their protection. Not all parents are good parents, that's why children who are in such bad state and care can be taken away from parents if they fail to provide the basic care for them. Those laws were made to protect children.
Secondly, any state who has signed the Convention of Children's Rights has an additional explicit and active responsibility to protect them.
I don't know if the Netherlands have signed it or not, but if they have, this party comes into direct contradiction with such convention.
"Lets throw in some free train travel so we get more people voting for us. More votes means the closer we get to freely being able to rape someone's child."
Fools.
How is it foolish for a political party to come up with policies to try and win votes?
That's the whole point.
This particular party just happens to have some policies on paedophilia that are controversial, the dutch people are free to notice this and not vote for them. Just as they are free to dislike the policies of any other party and not vote for them either.