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some kind of self sacrifice holy jihad thing
and now they are saying, one, possibly more of the three who committed suicide, were due to be released, dear god, get yourhead straight america
Let's be fair if the UN security council voted to intervene in Chechyna and Russia says 'fuck off' whose going to put forces on the ground and get into a shooting war with one of the most powerful nations in the world.
At the end of the day the UN is only as good as its member nations and no nation has yet put the interests of the UN above its own, and there's no sign that any are going to do so in the future.
Even peacekeeping is based on national interest either a) its goes down well domestically in democracies (shades of intervention in Bosnia after lots of prime time TV coverage) b) its in many nations interests for the amount of war and instability to be kept to a minimum, as nothing hurts trade, commerce and prosperity as much as continual war and/or c) the UN pays peacekeeping countries extremely well and its a cheap way to get foreign exchange.
Fine to reform it, but any reform actually has to work on the ground.
Guantanamo Bay should not exist. A nation that loves democracy as much as the US claims it does should not be taking people to a Cuban island to get electric shocks where the sun doesn't shine. It is far more than an "anomaly". It's an international disgrace, and should be closed down immediately.
People detained and stripped of all human dignity without evidence or any idea when or even if they will ever be freed are no less susceptible to despair due to religion.
http://answering-islam.org/Index/S/suicide.html
Well Renzo, when does the UN stop wars or uphold human rights? I can think of few cases unless it is to protect the West or its allies or the regimes of powerful nations. No one is stopping the North Korean leadership despite there poor human rights records. Genocide in Rwanda happened to the full knowledge of the UNSC, so they simply renamed the Genocide as a "Civil War" to avoid having to get involved. No one would stop Russia in Chechnya as NQA said and no one will Stop China in Tibet. China claims Tibet is merely part of China, others say it is independant but nothing os done. If there was No VETO power there would be an obligation to get involved and if neccessary use force. But that would cause a shooting war between powerful and possibly Nuclear nations on many occasions so the VETO prevents this. It is mostly a formality. Take away the VETO excuse and nations would just choose to not become involved and then the UN loses what little power it has available.
Thats why it is a pointless outdated institution that should be completely scrapped and replaced or merely allowed to die like the League of Nations.
You can add Tony Blair to the list. Another 'committed' Christian who prays together with Bush before sitting down for dinner and discussing who should they bomb to fuck next.
What do you think the UN could do to sort out the problems of poverty in Africa?
Tbh when the likes of China, Cuba, Zimbabwe and Saudi Arabia end up on the UN 'Human Rights' Commission the entire UN is made to look like a bad joke really. The UN is infested to the core with corruption and waste, problems like AIDS and world poverty are not going to be solved through the UN.
Bush had the right idea, he funded a $15bn programme to fight AIDS but with the condition that a third of funds be directed towards promoting abstinence. (While also making provision for the use of condoms). By effectively bypassing the UN and doing something directly UN sleaze and bureaucracy was skipped.
As for fighting poverty, well it's not going to happen through the UN. It'll happen through rich countries ending tariffs and subsidies. President Bush offered to abolish all tariffs and subsidies to promote prosperity among struggling nations if the EU would do the same. Unfortunately the EU - and France is mostly to blame has consistently refused to make any compromises on tariffs and subsidies. If it was the US holding stuff up there'd be a lot of criticism but when it's the French and the EU most of the left is silent.
Yes, it's called the "Security Council".
How quickly and conveniently the boy doth forget which country it was imposing steel tarriffs to protect US industry. A selective memory is the boon of the rabidly ideologically indoctrinated mind.
That goes without mentioning the decades-long insitutionalised economic con game led by washington in the form of "structural adjustment arrangements" packaged with any and all "aid" ever provided courtesy USAID, The World Bank and the IMF. A mechanism for maintaining perpetual corporate extortion of the developing world's resources and future self determinant development prospects.
Remove the "gether with" and tighten it up a bit and the sentence will read more accurately.
We need someone to keep linking to Al-Jazera... I think I'll start, and I'll take what it says as fact. Prepare for a week of Al-Jazera, people.
Anyway. Guantanamo just shows the game the US is realy playing to everyone. It shows that behind all the bullshit, THIS is what they are doing. And yet... the world ignores it. And the UN ignore it. Ho-hum. What DO we do?
China has made a JOKE about how the UN ignore Guantanamo... it's hardly going to amount to anything.
The only countries rasing issue exert little power in the UN - Cuba for instance. And it's South American allies. They get ignored and shot down - obviously it's some kind of Commie Lie Castro is spreading. Like he'd know what is happening in his own country! :rolleyes:
The joke actually refered to how they themselves nad the USA get ignored whilst the UN will pcik on Cuba for Human Rights violations.
Sigh... gotta love the UN, eh?
Human Rights are Human Rights.