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Two held in terror raid released
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Two men arrested after a raid on a house in east London have been released without charge, Scotland Yard said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/5066166.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/5066166.stm
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Do you honestly think the police would risk this adverse publicity without a good lead?
Perhpas they should check their leads then.
One innocent man, with no links at all to Islamic Terrorism is shot, dead.
This story seems more likley to be genuine but we cannot be sure. This is the lot that killed an innocent in the war on terror. An investigation not yet finished... sohuldn't we be donig MORE to hold them to account?
I think they need to check their intelligence more carefully. Jean Charles de Menezes ring any bells with you?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2659133.stm
You don't see the relevance of two cases where crappy intelligence led to people getting shot? Really? How odd.
Now, I don't see the relevance of that.
Erm, why don't you? So.. anti terrorism... people get shot... one innocent has died already... don't you think thats a bit dodgey? The terrible state of affairs and idsorganisation, with the people ment to protect us?
Both were failings in intelligence, followed by police misinformation in an attempt to cover their arses.
No. Explain.
The police go in unarmed and they get murdered; they go in armed and let off a shot during a struggle and they are to blame for using faulty intelligence.
What's your underlying point?
Not that different. Failing of intelligence and trigger happy cops. Seems quite similar to me.
"let off a shot during a struggle"? You sure?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5049800.stm
I also heard reports that the copper who shot the bloke was wearing thick gloves and pulled the trigger unaware that he had done so.
That the police need to be less cavalier in such a sensitive situation. What's yours?
ps What do you expect the suspect to say? That he tried to fight his way out and got shot in the process? Even an idiot would blame the police, let alone an intelligent alleged chemical bomber.
Why would he lie? He's quite probably innocent. Seeing as the police lied their arses off after shooting de Menezes, I know who I believe.
This is about enforcing the law in the right way, in a way that gives confidence to the people and not give doubts!!
Everyone knows that the police are at a disadvantage in normal life, when they patrol or whatever because they don't carry guns. They shouldn't be going into a situation they don't know.
I wouldn't go into a house not knowing whether whoever in there was armed or not.
The police here, the ones that are gun trained, or supposedly gun trained, they are not properly trained to deal with "live" situations. That's obvious to me. And that is not their fault.
Unless one of the guys had a knife or a gun there was no need to shoot.
I do agree that the police do a thankless task, but only because their bosses are dimwits!!
They however fucked up big time when they decided to make a show out of it, inviting TV crews and all and bringing 250 fucking coppers along.
And of course they fucked up even bigger time when they managed to shoot someone 'because they were wearing thick chemical gloves' and to add insult to injury attempted to blame the brother of the shot man for the shooting.
Heads should fucking roll. But then, heads should have rolled when a certain Brazilian electrician was shot 11 times in a tube carriage, and the only action we've seen so far was the copper who pulled the trigger being given an extra week's holiday, so I won't hold my breath.
Yes another example of an intelligence fuck up. Rather proves my point I think.
Anyone else read what the police did to their next door neighbours. If you are in any doubt about the heavy handed approach of the Police...
Let me guess... they tore down the wall or something?